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From: "Keld Jørn Simonsen" <keld@dkuug.dk>
To: Steve Fairbairn <steve@fairbairn-family.com>
Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/18] Assorted md patches headed for 2.6.30
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:46:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090212094604.GA11981@rap.rap.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4993E82D.1020309@fairbairn-family.com>

On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 09:13:17AM +0000, Steve Fairbairn wrote:
> Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
> >
> >I would rather have functionality to convert raid10 to raid5.
> >raid1 should be depreciated, as raid10,n2 for all purposes is the same
> >but better implementation and performance, and raid10,f2 and raid10,o2
> >are even better.  Nobody should use raid1 anymore.
> >
> Complete ignorance of raid10 here, but is raid10,<anything> bootable, 
> like raid1 is?  I use raid1 on my root and boot partitions.

AFAIK, raid10,n2 in default mode (superblock etc) is bootable, as it
looks like two copies of a normal FS. I think this was even reported 
on this list at some time. 

You are not the only one that does not know much about raid10. I think
most Linux administrators don't.  And other system adminstrators most
likely don't either.

Maybe we should rename raid10 to raid1?

Raid10 should just be an enhanced raid1. And I understand from Neil that
raid10,o2 is mostly done because it is a standard raid1 layout. So it is
strange that it is not available with raid1 in Linux. And I also think
that the raid10,f2 layout is available from some HW raid controllers, as
their implementation of raid1. So all what is in raid10 is other places
considered raid1 stuff.

Or we could merge the two drivers. 

I think we will never get people in general to know about raid10 as well
as they know about raid1, not even by far. 

Best regards
keld
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-12  9:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-12  3:10 [PATCH 00/18] Assorted md patches headed for 2.6.30 NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 01/18] md: never clear bit from the write-intent bitmap when the array is degraded NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 05/18] md: Make mddev->size sector-based NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 04/18] md: be more consistent about setting WriteMostly flag when adding a drive to an array NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 02/18] md: write bitmap information to devices that are undergoing recovery NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 06/18] md: Represent raid device size in sectors NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 08/18] md/raid5: change raid5_compute_sector and stripe_to_pdidx to take a 'previous' argument NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 07/18] md/raid5: simplify interface for init_stripe and get_active_stripe NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 03/18] md: occasionally checkpoint drive recovery to reduce duplicate effort after a crash NeilBrown
2009-02-12 17:26   ` John Stoffel
2009-02-13 16:20   ` Bill Davidsen
2009-02-13 16:34     ` Jon Nelson
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 14/18] md: md_unregister_thread should cope with being passed NULL NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 09/18] md/raid6: remove expectation that Q device is immediately after P device NeilBrown
2009-02-12 16:56   ` Andre Noll
2009-02-13 22:19     ` Dan Williams
2009-02-16  0:08     ` Neil Brown
2009-02-13 16:37   ` Bill Davidsen
2009-02-16  5:15     ` Neil Brown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 10/18] md/raid5: simplify raid5_compute_sector interface NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 15/18] md: hopefully enable suspend/resume of md devices NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 17/18] md: add ->takeover method for raid5 to be able to take over raid1 NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 18/18] md/raid5: allow layout/chunksize to be changed on an active2-drive raid5 NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 16/18] md: add ->takeover method to support changing the personality managing an array NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 12/18] md/raid5: finish support for DDF/raid6 NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 11/18] md/raid5: Add support for new layouts for raid5 and raid6 NeilBrown
2009-02-12  3:10 ` [PATCH 13/18] md/raid5: refactor raid5 "run" NeilBrown
2009-02-12  8:11 ` [PATCH 00/18] Assorted md patches headed for 2.6.30 Keld Jørn Simonsen
2009-02-12  9:13   ` Steve Fairbairn
2009-02-12  9:46     ` Keld Jørn Simonsen [this message]
2009-02-12 10:52       ` NeilBrown
2009-02-12 11:16         ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2009-02-12 10:53       ` Julian Cowley
2009-02-13 16:54         ` Bill Davidsen
2009-02-16  5:35           ` Neil Brown
2009-02-16 17:31             ` Nagilum
2009-02-12 22:57     ` Dan Williams
2009-02-13 16:56     ` Bill Davidsen
2009-02-12  9:21   ` NeilBrown
2009-02-12  9:53     ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2009-02-12 10:45       ` NeilBrown
2009-02-12 11:11         ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2009-02-12 15:28         ` Wil Reichert
2009-02-12 17:44           ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2009-02-12  9:42 ` Farkas Levente
2009-02-12 10:40   ` NeilBrown
2009-02-12 11:17     ` Farkas Levente
2009-02-13 17:02       ` Bill Davidsen
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2009-03-10  8:24 jzc-sina
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2009-03-13  1:00 ` Neil Brown

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