From: "Lelsie Rhorer" <lrhorer@satx.rr.com>
To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: RE: RAID halting
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 00:34:19 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090405053422.LCZN19140.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@Leslie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87f94c370904041749j318b577dr663ef0bd3b4ad717@mail.gmail.com>
> > Also, it doesn't take a drive 40 seconds,
> > let alone 2 minutes, to mark a sector bad.
>
> Just for info, with Enterprise class sata drives, you're right.
On this system, with consumer class drives, with the faulty RAID enclosure,
the system marked well over a million sectors bad. Except when the entire
drive was faulted and taken offline, it never caused a halt of this
magnitude, and every single block of sectors marked bad was reported in the
kernel log. I can't guarantee this is not what is happening, but I am
highly skeptical, to say the least. You're also going to have to explain to
me why 5 drives stop reading and 5 do not, and why it is always the same 5
drives. One flaky drive I can believe. Five I can't. You're also going to
have to explain to me why there are no reports of sectors marked bad in the
kernel log when these events occur, although at long intervals (months),
occasionally a block of bad sectors will be reported.
> For consumer grade sata, they have extended auto retry logic as an
> effort not to fail a read from a bad sector. It can easily take times
> like your seeing. I think the standard drive timeout is on the order
> of 30 seconds and then libata sometimes has retry logic of its own.
I have never seen any of the marked failures take that long. As I said,
there were well over a million marked bad, usually in chunks of 128 sectors.
> Especially with PATA drives a 2 minute issue is not out of the
> question, since the kernel will step down the i/o speed and retry each
> speed as it goes. And PATA (IDE) has a lot of speeds to try.
In my original message I already said these are 1T SATA drives spread across
three different port multipliers.
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Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <49D7C19C.2050308@gmail.com>
2009-04-05 0:07 ` RAID halting Lelsie Rhorer
2009-04-05 0:49 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-04-05 5:34 ` Lelsie Rhorer [this message]
2009-04-05 7:16 ` Richard Scobie
2009-04-05 8:22 ` Lelsie Rhorer
2009-04-05 14:05 ` Drew
2009-04-05 18:54 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-05 19:17 ` John Robinson
2009-04-05 20:00 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-04-05 20:39 ` Peter Grandi
2009-04-05 23:27 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-05 22:03 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-06 22:16 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-04-07 18:22 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-24 4:52 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-24 6:50 ` Richard Scobie
2009-04-24 10:03 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-28 19:36 ` lrhorer
2009-04-24 15:24 ` Andrew Burgess
2009-04-25 4:26 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-24 17:03 ` Doug Ledford
2009-04-24 20:25 ` Richard Scobie
2009-04-24 20:28 ` CoolCold
2009-04-24 21:04 ` Richard Scobie
2009-04-25 7:40 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-25 8:53 ` Michał Przyłuski
2009-04-28 19:33 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-29 11:25 ` John Robinson
2009-04-30 0:55 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-30 12:34 ` John Robinson
2009-05-03 2:16 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-05-03 2:23 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-24 20:25 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-04-25 7:24 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-05 21:02 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-05 19:26 ` Richard Scobie
2009-04-05 20:40 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-05 20:57 ` Peter Grandi
2009-04-05 23:55 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-06 20:35 ` jim owens
2009-04-07 17:47 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-07 18:18 ` David Lethe
2009-04-08 14:17 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-08 14:30 ` David Lethe
2009-04-09 4:52 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-09 6:45 ` David Lethe
2009-04-08 14:37 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-04-08 16:29 ` Andrew Burgess
2009-04-09 3:24 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-10 3:02 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-10 4:51 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-10 12:50 ` jim owens
2009-04-10 15:31 ` Bill Davidsen
2009-04-11 1:37 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-11 13:02 ` Bill Davidsen
2009-04-10 8:53 ` David Greaves
2009-04-08 18:04 ` Corey Hickey
2009-04-07 18:20 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-04-08 8:45 ` John Robinson
2009-04-09 3:34 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-05 7:33 ` Richard Scobie
2009-04-05 0:57 ` Roger Heflin
2009-04-05 6:30 ` Lelsie Rhorer
[not found] <49F2A193.8080807@sauce.co.nz>
2009-04-25 7:03 ` Leslie Rhorer
[not found] <49F21B75.7060705@sauce.co.nz>
2009-04-25 4:32 ` Leslie Rhorer
[not found] <49D89515.3020800@computer.org>
2009-04-05 18:40 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-05 14:22 FW: " David Lethe
2009-04-05 14:53 ` David Lethe
2009-04-05 20:33 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-05 22:20 ` Peter Grandi
2009-04-06 0:31 ` Doug Ledford
2009-04-06 1:53 ` Leslie Rhorer
2009-04-06 12:37 ` Doug Ledford
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-04-05 5:33 David Lethe
2009-04-05 8:14 ` RAID halting Lelsie Rhorer
2009-04-04 17:05 Lelsie Rhorer
2009-04-02 13:35 Andrew Burgess
2009-04-04 5:57 ` RAID halting Lelsie Rhorer
2009-04-04 13:01 ` Andrew Burgess
2009-04-04 14:39 ` Lelsie Rhorer
2009-04-04 15:04 ` Andrew Burgess
2009-04-04 15:15 ` Lelsie Rhorer
2009-04-04 16:39 ` Andrew Burgess
2009-04-02 7:33 Peter Grandi
2009-04-02 23:01 ` RAID halting Lelsie Rhorer
2009-04-02 6:56 your mail Luca Berra
2009-04-04 6:44 ` RAID halting Lelsie Rhorer
2009-04-02 4:38 Strange filesystem slowness with 8TB RAID6 NeilBrown
2009-04-04 7:12 ` RAID halting Lelsie Rhorer
2009-04-04 12:38 ` Roger Heflin
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