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From: Alberto Bertogli <albertito@blitiri.com.ar>
To: Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dm-devel@redhat.com,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, agk@redhat.com, neilb@suse.de
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] dm-csum: A new device mapper target that checks data integrity
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 09:52:52 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090526125252.GL1376@blitiri.com.ar> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8763fop31e.fsf@frosties.localdomain>

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:33:01PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Alberto Bertogli <albertito@blitiri.com.ar> writes:
> > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 02:22:23PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> >> Alberto Bertogli <albertito@blitiri.com.ar> writes:
> >> > I'm writing this device mapper target that stores checksums on writes and
> >> > verifies them on reads.
> >> 
> >> How does that behave on crashes? Will checksums be out of sync with data?
> >> Will pending blocks recalculate their checksum?
> >
> >    To guarantee consistency, two imd sectors (named M1 and M2) are kept for
> >    every 62 data sectors, and the following procedure is used to update them
> >    when a write to a given sector is required:
> >
> >     - Read both M1 and M2.
> >     - Find out (using information stored in their headers) which one is newer.
> >       Let's assume M1 is newer than M2.
> >     - Update the M2 buffer to mark it's newer, and update the new data's CRC.
> >     - Submit the write to M2, and then the write to the data, using a barrier
> >       to make sure the metadata is updated _after_ the data.
> 
> Consider that the disk writes the data and then the system
> crashes. Now you have the old checksum but the new data. The checksum
> is out of sync.
> 
> Don't you mean that M2 is written _before_ the data? That way you have
> the old checksum in M1 and the new in M2. One of them will match
> depending on wether the data gets written before a crash or not. That
> would be more consistent with your read operation below.

Yes, the comment is wrong, thanks for noticing. That is how it's implemented.


> >    Accordingly, the read operations are handled as follows:
> >
> >     - Read both the data, M1 and M2.
> >     - Find out which one is newer. Let's assume M1 is newer than M2.
> >     - Calculate the data's CRC, and compare it to the one found in M1. If they
> >       match, the reading is successful. If not, compare it to the one found in
> >       M2. If they match, the reading is successful; otherwise, fail. If
> >       the read involves multiple sectors, it is possible that some of the
> >       correct CRCs are in M1 and some in M2.
> >
> >
> > The barrier will be (it's not done yet) replaced with serialized writes for
> > cases where the underlying block device does not support them, or when the
> > integrity metadata resides on a different block device than the data.
> >
> >
> > This scheme assumes writes to a single sector are atomic in the presence of
> > normal crashes, which I'm not sure if it's something sane to assume in
> > practise. If it's not, then the scheme can be modified to cope with that.
> 
> What happens if you have multiple writes to the same sector? (assuming
> you ment "before" above)
> 
> - user writes to sector
> - queue up write for M1 and data1
> - M1 writes
> - user writes to sector
> - queue up writes for M2 and data2
> - data1 is thrown away as data2 overwrites it
> - M2 writes
> - system crashes
> 
> Now both M1 and M2 have a different checksum than the old data left on
> disk.
> 
> Can this happen?

No, parallel writes that affect the same metadata sectors will not be allowed.
At the moment there is a rough lock which does not allow simultaneous updates
at all, I plan to make that more fine-grained in the future.

Note that bios that affect more than one sector are just fine, since the
metadata sector will be properly updated.

Thanks,
		Alberto


  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-26 12:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-21 16:13 [RFC PATCH] dm-csum: A new device mapper target that checks data integrity Alberto Bertogli
2009-05-21 18:17 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-05-21 19:17   ` Alberto Bertogli
2009-05-25 12:22 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-05-25 17:46   ` Alberto Bertogli
2009-05-26 10:33     ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-05-26 12:52       ` Alberto Bertogli [this message]
2009-05-28 19:29         ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-06-26  7:26           ` SandeepKsinha
2009-06-26  8:50             ` SandeepKsinha
2009-06-26 22:36             ` Alberto Bertogli
2009-06-26 22:53               ` Alan Cox
2009-06-28  0:34         ` Neil Brown
2009-06-28 15:30           ` Alberto Bertogli
2009-06-28 22:59             ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-05-26 19:48 ` [RFC PATCH v2] " Alberto Bertogli

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