From: Bill Nottingham <notting@redhat.com>
To: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, initramfs@vger.kernel.org,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org>,
Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.de>,
Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [[Patch mdadm] 2/5] Move the files mdmon opens into /dev/ to support handoff after pivotroot
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:56:08 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100208165608.GA19344@nostromo.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100208144522.62b1e568@notabene.brown>
Neil Brown (neilb@suse.de) said:
> Yes, I have not been thinking much about the shutdown side of the equation.
> Cleanup isn't an issue - you do not need to clean up /var/run when shutting
> down because it always happens on boot (and won't happen on a crash anyway).
> The only possible issue that I can see is if you want to unmount /var before
> setting / to read-only. You won't be able to do this because mdmon holds an
> open file descriptor on /var.
> So instead of unmounting /var you would need to remount it read-only, and
> then remount '/' read-only.
>
> Is that going to be a problem?
It's certainly a change in behavior. Historically all non-root filesystems
can be cleanly unmounted, then root is marked read-only, then you
halt/reboot.
> The first is as a cache for the mapping from UUID to md device (major/minor
> number). This is particularly need for Incremental mode so that when a new
> device is found, it is easy to find if an md device already is (partially)
> assembled for that array.
> Being a cache, this information can be recreated at any time - simply read
> the meta from some device in each array in record the UUID. This can be
> done with
> mdadm --incremental --rebuild-map
> (or mdadm -Ir).
> I think "mdadm --incremental" might even do this transparently if the mapfile
> cannot be found.
This seems like it could be integrated with the udev database, could it not?
(Whether or not you want this dependency is another matter.)
> 3/ Document that at mdmon may prevent /var from being unmounted and
> recommend "-o remount,ro" as an alternative.
As said above, I think this is a problem.
Bill
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-02-08 16:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-11 20:38 Minor mdadm fixes Doug Ledford
2010-01-11 20:38 ` [[Patch mdadm] 1/5] Make the IMSM_DEVNAME_AS_SERIAL option work when creating containers. This allows a person to testing using loopback devices that don't support serial number queries Doug Ledford
2010-01-18 22:01 ` Neil Brown
2010-01-18 22:13 ` Dan Williams
2010-01-19 1:55 ` Doug Ledford
2010-01-19 4:42 ` Dan Williams
2010-01-19 5:31 ` Doug Ledford
2010-01-19 5:47 ` Dan Williams
2010-01-11 20:38 ` [[Patch mdadm] 2/5] Move the files mdmon opens into /dev/ to support handoff after pivotroot Doug Ledford
2010-01-18 22:09 ` Neil Brown
2010-01-19 7:21 ` Luca Berra
2010-01-19 17:51 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-01 20:32 ` Bill Davidsen
2010-02-01 21:32 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-01 22:42 ` Bill Davidsen
2010-02-02 4:08 ` Michael Evans
2010-02-02 7:17 ` Luca Berra
2010-02-02 15:42 ` Bill Davidsen
2010-02-02 18:19 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-04 13:50 ` Bernd Schubert
2010-02-04 15:03 ` Bernd Schubert
2010-02-04 15:48 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-04 16:40 ` Bernd Schubert
2010-02-04 17:35 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-02 18:11 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-02 18:07 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-02 18:18 ` Bill Davidsen
2010-02-04 6:40 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-04 18:45 ` Doug Ledford
[not found] ` <4B6B15B3.8030205-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-04 23:04 ` Dan Williams
[not found] ` <e9c3a7c21002041504w17565653m5a8b8cd90543cf1e-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-05 0:21 ` Bill Davidsen
2010-02-05 12:14 ` Luca Berra
2010-02-06 17:51 ` Doug Ledford
[not found] ` <4B6DAC06.6060909-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-06 21:07 ` Dan Williams
[not found] ` <e9c3a7c21002061307le6f5d56ked4fa3711bdd2367-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-06 21:46 ` martin f krafft
2010-02-06 22:06 ` Michael Evans
2010-02-08 15:32 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-08 21:38 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-09 0:20 ` Michael Evans
[not found] ` <20100209083838.6568cac0-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-09 2:19 ` martin f krafft
[not found] ` <20100209021949.GB11780-0owbi4v4jRjYceiJAzDLgeTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-09 20:34 ` Doug Ledford
[not found] ` <4B71C6CA.3010407-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-10 0:58 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
[not found] ` <alpine.LNX.2.01.1002091553580.10004-pIN9qAC4yfKseEBmXaVrNB5FPEiCeG3sAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-10 1:33 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-10 9:46 ` Harald Hoyer
[not found] ` <20100210123321.324e5de6-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-10 15:49 ` Dan Williams
2010-02-10 16:06 ` Michael Evans
[not found] ` <4877c76c1002100806w66e504deg767f6ecc8cc7fa8a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-11 2:30 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-09 20:30 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-08 4:23 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-07 22:13 ` Hans de Goede
2010-02-07 23:06 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-08 3:45 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-08 16:56 ` Bill Nottingham [this message]
2010-01-11 20:38 ` [[Patch mdadm] 3/5] We don't like %02d as a metadata format specifier, it confuses us when we read the output back later Doug Ledford
2010-01-18 22:02 ` Neil Brown
2010-01-11 20:38 ` [[Patch mdadm] 4/5] When using -D --export the UUID is helpful, so print it out Doug Ledford
2010-01-18 22:03 ` Neil Brown
2010-01-11 20:38 ` [[Patch mdadm] 5/5] Fix segfault when the AUTO keyword is used in the config file Doug Ledford
2010-01-18 22:03 ` Neil Brown
2010-01-12 0:49 ` Minor mdadm fixes Mr. James W. Laferriere
2010-01-12 3:10 ` Andre Noll
2010-01-12 3:36 ` Doug Ledford
2010-01-12 4:39 ` Andre Noll
2010-01-12 4:46 ` Doug Ledford
2010-01-12 5:21 ` Andre Noll
2010-01-18 22:05 ` Neil Brown
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