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From: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
To: "Trela, Maciej" <Maciej.Trela@intel.com>
Cc: "Kwolek, Adam" <adam.kwolek@intel.com>,
	"linux-raid@vger.kernel.org" <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Williams, Dan J" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Ciechanowski, Ed" <ed.ciechanowski@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [md PATCH 2/5]  md: Enable reshape for external metadata
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:35:19 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100617203519.681a7586@notabene.brown> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BE2BFE91933D1B4089447C64486040801E8E686C@irsmsx503.ger.corp.intel.com>

On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:40:36 +0100
"Trela, Maciej" <Maciej.Trela@intel.com> wrote:

> > 
> > >
> > > Another thing is waiting during reshape for metadata update on
> > MD_CHANGE_DEVS flag.
> > > To roll reshape I've added the following code (instead calling
> > md_ubdate_sb()):
> > 
> > Yes, there is a real issue there...
> > 
> > I don't think we ever need the kernel to wait for an external metadata
> > handler
> > to respond to device changes (apart from failure which is handled
> > separately).
> > So maybe the best thing is to guard all settings of MD_CHANGE_DEVS with
> > if (mddev->persistent)
> > 
> > I think that would be best, but I've make a note to review that later.
> > 
> 
> Neil,
> from what I see in the raid5.c/md.c "native" code uses MD_CHANGE_DEVS
> during the reshape if it reaches special points when metadata
> write is really needed to update the reshape checkpoint.
> In reshape_request():
> 	/* Cannot proceed until we've updated the superblock */
> 	..
> 	set_bit(MD_CHANGE_DEVS, mddev->flags)
> 
> In md_check_recovery() we have:
> 	if (mddev->flags) 
> 		md_update_sb()
> 
> Couldn't we follow this logic with MD_CHANGE_DEVS for external metadata?
> If not, how to detect the need for migration checkpoint update?

Good question.
The first question to ask is
  How does mdmon know when a metadata update is required, and how does
  it tell md that the metadata update is complete.

OK, 2 first questions...

For the first I suspect it should watch 'md/reshape_position' (which need to
use sysfs_notify for).
For the second .... I don't know.
- Maybe sync_action could change to 'paused' and mdmon writes 'continue'....
  but that is possibly overloading that file too much.
- We could have a new sysfs file which just shows paused/active ??
- We could require that mdmon sets 'sync_max' appropriately so that reshape
  will stop at the right place, and then when mdmon has updated the metadata,
  it sets a new sync_max value.
- As above, but if sync_max is set too high, it is automatically reduced
  to the place when raid5 finds that it has to stop

I think the last one is probably best.
Before updating ->reshape_position, raid5 checks ->resync_max and if it is
too high for safety it set is lower to a safer value.
Then it changes ->reshape_position and calls sysfs_notify.

mdmon watches for 'reshape_postion' to change.  when it does it updates the
metadata and then writes a larger value to ->resync_max.

Things can get a little confusing when reshaping to fewer devices as
reshape_position decreases, but sync_completed always increases and sync_max
is still an 'upper' limit.

But it should work OK.

Does that seem reasonable?

NeilBrown

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-17 10:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-09 14:21 [md PATCH 2/5] md: Enable reshape for external metadata Kwolek, Adam
2010-06-16  4:53 ` Neil Brown
2010-06-16 14:52   ` Kwolek, Adam
2010-06-17  6:11     ` Neil Brown
2010-06-17  9:40       ` Trela, Maciej
2010-06-17 10:35         ` Neil Brown [this message]
2010-06-17 13:19           ` Trela, Maciej
2010-06-17 16:49       ` Kwolek, Adam

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