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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: Jun'ichi Nomura <j-nomura@ce.jp.nec.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Kiyoshi Ueda <k-ueda@ct.jp.nec.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, jaxboe@fusionio.com,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	James.Bottomley@suse.de, konishi.ryusuke@lab.ntt.co.jp,
	tj@kernel.org, tytso@mit.edu, swhiteho@redhat.com,
	chris.mason@oracle.com, dm-devel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH, RFC 2/2] dm: support REQ_FLUSH directly
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:13:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100827141314.GB22504@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C7752B5.3020905@ce.jp.nec.com>

On Fri, Aug 27 2010 at  1:52am -0400,
Jun'ichi Nomura <j-nomura@ce.jp.nec.com> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> 
> (08/27/10 13:08), Mike Snitzer wrote:
> > But do you agree that the request-based barrier code (added in commit
> > d0bcb8786) could be reverted given the new FLUSH work?
> 
> No, it's a separate thing.
> If we don't need to care about the case where multiple clones
> of flush request are necessary, the special casing of flush
> request can be removed regardless of the new FLUSH work.

Ah, yes thanks for clarifying.  But we've never cared about multiple
clone of a flush so it's odd that such elaborate infrastructure was
introduced without a need.

> > We no longer need waiting now that ordering isn't a concern.  Especially
> 
> The waiting is not for ordering, but for multiple clones.
> 
> > so given rq-based doesn't support multiple targets.  As you know, from
> > dm_table_set_type:
> > 
> >         /*
> >          * Request-based dm supports only tables that have a single target now.
> >          * To support multiple targets, request splitting support is needed,
> >          * and that needs lots of changes in the block-layer.
> >          * (e.g. request completion process for partial completion.)
> >          */
> 
> This comment is about multiple targets.
> The special code for barrier is for single target whose
> num_flush_requests > 1. Different thing.

Yes, I need to not send mail just before going to bed..
 
> > I think we need to at least benchmark the performance of dm-mpath
> > without any of this extra, soon to be unnecessary, code.
> 
> If there will be no need for supporting a request-based target
> with num_flush_requests > 1, the special handling of flush
> can be removed.
> 
> And since there is no such target in the current tree,
> I don't object if you remove that part of code for good reason.

OK, certainly something to keep in mind.  But _really_ knowing the
multipath FLUSH+FUA performance difference (extra special-case code vs
none) requires a full FLUSH conversion of request-based DM anyway.

In general, request-based DM's barrier/flush code does carry a certain
maintenance overhead.  It is quite a bit of distracting code in the core
DM which isn't buying us anything.. so we _could_ just remove it and
never look back (until we have some specific need for num_flush_requests
> 1 in rq-based DM).

Mike

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-27 14:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20100727165627.GA474@lst.de>
     [not found] ` <20100727175418.GF6820@quack.suse.cz>
     [not found]   ` <20100803184939.GA12198@lst.de>
     [not found]     ` <20100803185148.GA12258@lst.de>
2010-08-04  4:57       ` [PATCH, RFC 2/2] dm: support REQ_FLUSH directly Kiyoshi Ueda
2010-08-04  8:54         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-05  2:16           ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2010-08-26 22:50             ` Mike Snitzer
2010-08-27  0:40               ` Mike Snitzer
2010-08-27  1:20                 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-08-27  1:43               ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2010-08-27  4:08                 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-08-27  5:52                   ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2010-08-27 14:13                     ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2010-08-30  4:45                       ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2010-08-30  8:33                         ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-30 12:43                           ` Mike Snitzer
2010-08-30 12:45                             ` Tejun Heo
2010-08-06 16:04     ` [PATCH, RFC] relaxed barriers Tejun Heo
2010-08-06 23:34       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-07 10:13       ` [PATCH REPOST " Tejun Heo
2010-08-08 14:31         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-09 14:50           ` Tejun Heo

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