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From: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
To: Jeff Klingner <klingner@stanford.edu>
Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: raid1 with rotating offsite disks for backup
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:02:12 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110208130212.71a7064d@notabene.brown> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47409A64-9CF1-4E12-9DAD-F7079298B1FE@stanford.edu>

On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 17:32:48 -0800 Jeff Klingner <klingner@stanford.edu> wrote:

> >>>> Also, if you want two rotating backups I would create two stacked raid1s.
> >>>> 
> >>>> mdadm -C /dev/md0 -l1 -n2 -b internal  /dev/main-device /dev/first-backup
> >>>> mdadm -C /dev/md1 -l1 -n2 -b internal /dev/md0 /dev/second-backup
> >>>> mkfs -j /dev/md1
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 7, 2011, at 5:19 PM, NeilBrown wrote:
> > I'm surprised that you found the correct advise, and chose not to follow
> > it .....
> 
> Thanks again for your advice.  I didn't search the list until after completing my initial setup; my mistake and my lesson learned: research first.
> 
> > The array you will end up installing on is (slightly) smaller than than the
> > array you have created.  So no: you cannot re-arrange things - you have to
> > start again.
> > 
> > 
> > (well, to be honest, it is possible that you could resize whatever is on the
> > array and then build the secondary array and make it work.  But that path is
> > error-prone and this margin is not large enough to properly describe the
> > process).
> 
> Reckless fool that I am, I'm going to try it anyway.  Here's my rough plan:
> 
> 1. Degrade the 3-disk raid1 array by removing two disks, leaving only one, and leaving the array running.
> 2. Set up the first 2-disk array (md0 in your description) de novo on the two freed disks
> 3. Move my data from the original raid1 array (with only 1 of three disks present) to the new 2-disk md0 via lvm mirroring

Nope.  That would be wrong.  You need to create both mirrors before moving
any data.
So:

  3.  Set up the second 2-disk array (md1) as a degraded array containing
  only md0 as a member:

     mdadm --create /dev/md1 -l1 -n2 -b internal /dev/md0 missing

  3a. move my data from the original raid1 to the new md1 using pvmove

> 4. Free the third disk by finally taking down the original raid1 array
> 5. create the second 2-device array (md1) using md0 and the freed third disk.  Somehow ensure that the md0 component has primacy for syncing.

Then step 5 becomes:
  5.  Add this newly freed disk to the degraded md1:
    mdadm /dev/md1 --add /dev/whatever

NeilBrown



> 
> Jeff


  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-08  2:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-07 23:53 raid1 with rotating offsite disks for backup Jeff Klingner
2011-02-08  0:17 ` NeilBrown
2011-02-08  1:03   ` Jeff Klingner
2011-02-08  1:19     ` NeilBrown
2011-02-08  1:32       ` Jeff Klingner
2011-02-08  2:02         ` NeilBrown [this message]
2011-02-08  4:53   ` Leslie Rhorer
2011-02-08  5:37     ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-08  6:07       ` NeilBrown
2011-02-08  6:12         ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-08  3:04 ` Martin Cracauer
2011-02-08  3:40   ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-09 19:37 ` hansbkk
2011-02-09 19:53   ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-10  8:43     ` John Robinson

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