From: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
To: Piergiorgio Sartor <piergiorgio.sartor@nexgo.de>
Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: md road-map: 2011
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:48:26 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110217084826.77f4dbf1@notabene.brown> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110216202939.GA2756@lazy.lzy>
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 21:29:39 +0100 Piergiorgio Sartor
<piergiorgio.sartor@nexgo.de> wrote:
> Hi Neil,
>
> > I all,
> > I wrote this today and posted it at
> > http://neil.brown.name/blog/20110216044002
> >
> > I thought it might be worth posting it here too...
> [...]
> > So the following is a detailed road-map for md raid for the coming
> > months.
>
> Question, is this for information purpose or are we
> called to a "brainstorming"?
Primarily for information, but I'm always happy to hear other peoples ideas.
Some of them help...
Or maybe it was really a task list for all of you budding programmers out
there ... I can always hope!.
>
> [...]
> > Hot Replace
> > -----------
> >
> > "Hot replace" is my name for the process of replacing one device in an
> > array by another one without first failing the one device. Thus there
>
> Didn't we named it also "proactive replacement"? :-)
Probably - but too many syllables, so I cannot remember that so well.
>
> > It is not clear whether the primary should be automatically failed
> > when the rebuild of the secondary completes. Commonly this would be
> > ideal, but if the secondary experienced any write errors (that were
> > recorded in the bad block log) then it would be best to leave both in
> > place until the sysadmin resolves the situation. So in the first
> > implementation this failing should not be automatic.
>
> Maybe putting the primary as "spare", i.e. not failed nor
> working, unless the "migration" was not successful. In that
> case the secondary device should be failed.
Maybe ... but what if both primary and secondary have bad blocks on them?
What do I do then?
>
> My use case here is disk "rotation" :-). That is, for example, a
> RAID-5/6 with n disks + 1 spare. Each X months/weeks/days/hours
> one disk is pulled out of the array and the spare one takes over.
> The pulled out disk will be the new spare (and powered down, possibly).
> The idea here is to have n disks which will have, after some time,
> different (increasing) power on hours, so to minimize the possibility
> of multiple failures.
Interesting idea. This could be managed with some user-space tool that
initiates the 'hot-replace' and 'fail' from time to time and keeps track of
ages.
>
> > Better reporting of inconsistencies.
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > When a 'check' finds a data inconsistency it would be useful if it
> > was reported. That would allow a sysadmin to try to understand the
> > cause and possibly fix it.
>
> Could you, please, consider to add, for RAID-6, the
> capability to report also which device, potentially,
> has the problem? Thanks!
I would rather leave that to user-space. If I report where the problem is, a
tool could directly read all the blocks in that stripe and perform any fancy
calculations you like. I may even write that tool (but no promises).
>
> bye,
>
Thanks,
NeilBrown
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Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-02-16 10:27 md road-map: 2011 NeilBrown
2011-02-16 11:28 ` Giovanni Tessore
2011-02-16 13:40 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-16 14:00 ` Robin Hill
2011-02-16 14:09 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-16 14:21 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-16 21:55 ` NeilBrown
2011-02-17 1:30 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-16 14:13 ` Joe Landman
2011-02-16 21:24 ` NeilBrown
2011-02-16 21:44 ` Roman Mamedov
2011-02-16 21:59 ` NeilBrown
2011-02-17 0:48 ` Phil Turmel
2011-02-16 22:12 ` Joe Landman
2011-02-16 15:42 ` David Brown
2011-02-16 21:35 ` NeilBrown
2011-02-16 22:34 ` David Brown
2011-02-16 23:01 ` NeilBrown
2011-02-17 0:30 ` David Brown
2011-02-17 0:55 ` NeilBrown
2011-02-17 1:04 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-17 10:45 ` David Brown
2011-02-17 10:58 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-17 11:45 ` Giovanni Tessore
2011-02-17 15:44 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-17 16:22 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-18 0:13 ` Giovanni Tessore
2011-02-18 2:56 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-18 4:27 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-18 9:47 ` Giovanni Tessore
2011-02-18 18:43 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-18 19:00 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-18 19:18 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-18 19:22 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-16 17:20 ` Joe Landman
2011-02-16 21:36 ` NeilBrown
2011-02-16 19:37 ` Phil Turmel
2011-02-16 21:44 ` NeilBrown
2011-02-17 0:11 ` Phil Turmel
2011-02-16 20:29 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2011-02-16 21:48 ` NeilBrown [this message]
2011-02-16 22:53 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2011-02-17 0:24 ` Phil Turmel
2011-02-17 0:52 ` NeilBrown
2011-02-17 1:14 ` Phil Turmel
2011-02-17 3:10 ` NeilBrown
2011-02-17 18:46 ` Phil Turmel
2011-02-17 21:04 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2011-02-18 1:48 ` NeilBrown
2011-02-17 19:56 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2011-02-16 22:50 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-23 5:06 ` Daniel Reurich
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