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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Patterson <andrew.patterson@hp.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, dm-devel@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, James.Bottomley@suse.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix over-zealous flush_disk when changing device size.
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 09:31:20 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110303143120.GA8134@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110217165057.5c50e566@notabene.brown>

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 04:50:57PM +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> 
> Hi Andrew (and others)
>  I wonder if you would review the following for me and comment.

Please send think in this area through -fsdevel next time, thanks!

> There are two cases when we call flush_disk.
> In one, the device has disappeared (check_disk_change) so any
> data will hold becomes irrelevant.
> In the oter, the device has changed size (check_disk_size_change)
> so data we hold may be irrelevant.
> 
> In both cases it makes sense to discard any 'clean' buffers,
> so they will be read back from the device if needed.

Does it?  If the device has disappeared we can't read them back anyway.
If the device has resized to a smaller size the same is true about
those buffers that have gone away, and if it has resized to a larger
size invalidating anything doesn't make sense at all.  I think this
area needs more love than a quick kill_dirty hackjob.

> In the former case it makes sense to discard 'dirty' buffers
> as there will never be anywhere safe to write the data.  In the
> second case it *does*not* make sense to discard dirty buffers
> as that will lead to file system corruption when you simply enlarge
> the containing devices.

Doing anything like this at the buffer cache layer or inode cache layer
doesn't make any sense.  If a device goes away or shrinks below the
filesystem size the filesystem simply needs to be shut down and in te
former size the admin needs to start a manual repair.  Trying to do
any botch jobs in lower layer never works in practice.

For now I think the best short term fix is to simply revert commit
608aeef17a91747d6303de4df5e2c2e6899a95e8

	"Call flush_disk() after detecting an online resize."

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-03 14:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-17  5:50 [PATCH] Fix over-zealous flush_disk when changing device size NeilBrown
2011-02-17 17:03 ` Jeff Moyer
2011-02-23  8:48   ` Kwolek, Adam
2011-02-23 10:01     ` NeilBrown
2011-02-21 19:36 ` Jeff Moyer
2011-02-21 21:14   ` NeilBrown
2011-03-03 14:31 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2011-03-04  0:16   ` NeilBrown
2011-03-04 17:25     ` Andrew Patterson
2011-03-06  6:47       ` NeilBrown
2011-03-07  4:22         ` Andrew Patterson
2011-03-07 16:46           ` [dm-devel] " James Bottomley
2011-03-07 22:44             ` NeilBrown
2011-03-07 22:56               ` James Bottomley
2011-03-08  0:04                 ` NeilBrown
2011-03-16 20:30                   ` Jeff Moyer
2011-03-17  1:28                     ` NeilBrown
2011-03-17 17:33                       ` Jeff Moyer

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