From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: NeilBrown Subject: Re: Recovery of failed RAID 6 and LVM Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:49:10 +1000 Message-ID: <20110929094910.2c44ff8a@notabene.brown> References: <4E7EDE58.3000804@yazzy.org> <20110926074002.6399de56@notabene.brown> <4E7FA3E8.5010603@yazzy.org> <20110926081853.2819622b@notabene.brown> <4E804062.3020700@yazzy.org> <20110926193130.6377f5b9@notabene.brown> <4E82203A.60507@yazzy.org> <20110928091335.1df35f8e@notabene.brown> <4E828B92.40502@hardwarefreak.com> <4E82C862.8000705@yazzy.org> <4E834758.2090508@hardwarefreak.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/5EjrSN9onuu6.xHPmV+/Ees"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: In-Reply-To: <4E834758.2090508@hardwarefreak.com> Sender: linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org To: stan@hardwarefreak.com Cc: lists@yazzy.org, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-raid.ids --Sig_/5EjrSN9onuu6.xHPmV+/Ees Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 11:12:08 -0500 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 9/28/2011 2:10 AM, Marcin M. Jessa wrote: > > On 9/28/11 4:50 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > > >> Reading the thread, and the many like it over the past months/years, m= ay > >> yield a clue as to why you wish to move on to something other than Lin= ux > >> RAID... > > > > :) I will give it another chance. > > In case of failure FreeBSD and ZFS would be another option. >=20 > I was responding to Neil's exhaustion with mdadm. I was speculating=20 > that help threads such as yours may be a contributing factor,=20 > requesting/requiring Neil to become Superman many times per month to try= =20 > to save some OP's bacon. >=20 No, I don't really think they are a factor - though thanks for thinking about it. Obviously not all "help threads" end with a good result but quite a few do and one has to take the rough with the smooth. And each help thread is a potential learning experience. If I see patterns of failure recurring it will guide and motivate me to improve md or mdadm to make that failure mode less likely. I think it is simply that it isn't new any more. I first started contributing to md early in 2000, and 11 years is a long time. Not as long as Mr Torvalds has works on Linux of course, but Linux is a lot bigger than md so there is more room to be interested. There have been many highlights over that time, but the ones that stick in = my memory is when others have contributed in significant ways. I really value that, whether it is code, or review or documentation, or making a wiki or answering mailing lists questions before I do, or even putting extra time in to reproduce a bug so we can drill down to the cause. I figure that appearing competent capable and in control isn't going to attract new blood - new blood wants wide open frontiers with lots of opportunity (I started in md when it was essentially unmaintained - I know the attraction). So I just want to say that there is certainly room and opportunity over here. I'm not about to drop md, but I would love an apprentice or two (or 3 or 4) and would aim to provide the same mix of independence and oversight as Linus does. NeilBrown --Sig_/5EjrSN9onuu6.xHPmV+/Ees Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFOg7J2G5fc6gV+Wb0RAl5lAJ0V9Lwo/8CG6GVrOYh35UymociHdwCfQcqY ozyWkQDTHpq+gWn5+nUTMDI= =BbHY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/5EjrSN9onuu6.xHPmV+/Ees--