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From: Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>
To: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Cc: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Andrey Borzenkov <arvidjaar@mail.ru>,
	systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] systemd kills mdmon if it was started manually by user
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:29:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111102152913.GG5119@tango.0pointer.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPXgP13XEsGSdrftU77-ee3k0gE=O=Odrb4YNkADUFCJ352ZBg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 02.11.11 16:21, Kay Sievers (kay.sievers@vrfy.org) wrote:

> 
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 16:17, Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net> wrote:
> > Kernel threads we detect by checking whether /proc/$PID/cmdline is
> > empty, hence I'd suggest we use the first char of argv[0][0] here, to
> > detect whether something is a process to avoid killing. Question is
> > which char to choose for that. I am tempted to use '@'.
> 
> Maybe introduce a 'initramfs' cgroup and move the pids there?

Well, in which hierarchy? I am a bit concerned about having other
subsystems muck with the systemd cgroup hierarchy, before systemd has
set it up.

I can see some elegance in having all code from the initrd that remains
running during boot in a cgroup of its own, but that's probably
orthogonal to finding a way to recognize processes not to kill at
shutdown. Why? Because there's stuff like Plymouth which also stays
around from the initramfs, but actually is something we *do* want to
kill on shutdown.


Lennart

-- 
Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-02 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-04  8:41 systemd kills mdmon if it was started manually by user Andrey Borzenkov
2010-12-04  9:12 ` Christian Parpart
2010-12-04 12:08   ` Andrey Borzenkov
2010-12-12 13:20     ` [systemd-devel] " Luca Berra
2011-01-07  0:40     ` Lennart Poettering
     [not found]     ` <20101204121413.GC11336@mother.pipebreaker.pl>
     [not found]       ` <AANLkTi=nTSdHc55f08G9sdEK6u8eXp276VOTHHr0jmXT@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <20110125034434.GC7046@tango.0pointer.de>
     [not found]           ` <AANLkTik189VTXYpzLFqP=MNBg=Nx-Yq6BOKURtiby++B@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]             ` <20110125042814.GA9727@tango.0pointer.de>
2011-02-04 19:55               ` Andrey Borzenkov
2011-02-08  9:48                 ` [systemd-devel] " Lennart Poettering
2011-02-08 10:52                   ` Andrey Borzenkov
2011-02-08 11:07                     ` Lennart Poettering
2011-02-08 13:54                       ` Andrey Borzenkov
2011-02-08 17:28                         ` [systemd-devel] " Lennart Poettering
2011-10-23  8:00                           ` Dan Williams
2011-10-24  8:04                             ` Thomas Jarosch
2011-10-25  1:40                             ` NeilBrown
2011-10-31 11:06                             ` Lennart Poettering
2011-10-31 11:15                               ` [systemd-devel] " Lennart Poettering
2011-11-02  0:44                               ` NeilBrown
2011-11-02  1:16                                 ` Lennart Poettering
2011-11-02  2:03                                   ` NeilBrown
2011-11-02 13:32                                     ` Lennart Poettering
2011-11-02 14:33                                       ` Kay Sievers
2011-11-02 15:17                                         ` Lennart Poettering
2011-11-02 15:21                                           ` Kay Sievers
2011-11-02 15:29                                             ` Lennart Poettering [this message]
2011-11-02 22:18                                               ` [systemd-devel] " Williams, Dan J
2011-11-02 23:39                                                 ` Lennart Poettering
2011-11-03  0:28                                                   ` Williams, Dan J
2011-11-02 17:21                                           ` Williams, Dan J
2011-11-02 23:35                                             ` Lennart Poettering
2011-11-02 18:16                                         ` Williams, Dan J
2011-11-02 18:49                                           ` Kay Sievers
2011-11-02 19:31                                             ` Williams, Dan J
2011-11-02 19:51                                               ` Kay Sievers
2011-11-07  2:52                                       ` NeilBrown
2011-11-07  3:42                                         ` Kay Sievers
2011-11-07  4:30                                           ` NeilBrown
2011-11-07 12:00                                         ` Lennart Poettering
2011-11-07 19:09                                           ` Williams, Dan J
2011-11-08 14:43                                             ` Lennart Poettering
2011-11-08 23:27                                               ` Williams, Dan J
2011-11-08  0:11                                       ` Michal Soltys
2011-11-08 16:46                                         ` Michal Soltys
2011-11-08 20:32                                           ` Michal Soltys
2011-11-08 22:29                                             ` Williams, Dan J
2011-02-09 14:01                       ` Lennart Poettering
2011-01-07  0:38 ` Lennart Poettering
2011-01-07  1:09   ` [systemd-devel] " Michael Biebl
2011-01-07  1:17     ` Roman Mamedov
2011-01-07  1:16   ` NeilBrown
2011-01-07  1:42     ` Lennart Poettering

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