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From: Piergiorgio Sartor <piergiorgio.sartor@nexgo.de>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>,
	Alex <creamyfish@gmail.com>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Is this enough for us to have triple-parity RAID?
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 23:04:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120420210443.GB2432@lazy.lzy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F91BB65.8040304@zytor.com>

Hi Peter,

> > Yes, being a generator for GF(2^8) is a requirement for a parity
> > generator (sorry for the confusing terminology here - if anyone has a
> > better suggestion, please say) to be part of a 255 data disk system.
> > However, being a GF generator is necessary but not sufficient - using
> > parity generators (1, 2, 4, 16) will /not/ give quad parity for 255 data
> > disks, even though individually each of 1, 2, 4 and 16 are generators
> > for GF.
[...]
> It is also worth noting that there is nothing magical about GF(2^8).  It
> is just a reasonable tradeoff when tables are needed.

I, then, ask you too.

What is this story that being a generator is not enough?

Is there any reference, documentation, link which can be
studied in order to understand this limitation?

In all RS papers I found, the only constrain put was that
the Vandermonde must be constructed with generators.
Not all RAID examples used them, but no paper, at least
for what I understood, was limiting the generators to
be also "independent".

Any undestandable explanation?

Thanks,

bye,

-- 

piergiorgio

  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-20 21:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-17  6:11 Is this enough for us to have triple-parity RAID? Alex
2012-04-17  7:58 ` David Brown
2012-04-17 16:37   ` Stefan /*St0fF*/ Hübner
2012-04-18 14:15     ` Alex
2012-04-18 14:11       ` David Brown
2012-04-17 17:16   ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2012-04-17 20:18     ` David Brown
2012-04-17 20:54       ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2012-04-18 18:22       ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2012-04-18 20:20         ` David Brown
2012-04-18 20:39           ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2012-04-19 18:16       ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-20  2:27         ` Alex
2012-04-20  3:00           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-20  3:32             ` Alex
2012-04-20 18:58               ` David Brown
2012-04-20 19:39                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-20 21:04                   ` Piergiorgio Sartor [this message]
2012-04-20 21:01                 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2012-04-20 21:29                   ` Peter Grandi
2012-04-20 22:31                     ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2012-04-21  9:51                       ` Peter Grandi
2012-04-21 11:18                         ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2012-04-22  3:14                           ` Alex
2012-04-22  8:57                             ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2012-04-20  7:45 ` Stan Hoeppner
2012-04-23 15:26   ` Alex
2012-04-25  1:20     ` Stan Hoeppner
2012-04-25  2:45       ` Alex
2012-04-25 16:59         ` Emmanuel Noobadmin
2012-04-25 19:29           ` David Brown
2012-04-26  2:30           ` Alex
2012-04-27 15:15             ` Emmanuel Noobadmin
2012-05-01 16:38               ` Alex
2012-04-26  4:24           ` Alex

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