From: keld@keldix.com
To: Stan Hoeppner <stan@hardwarefreak.com>
Cc: Phil Turmel <philip@turmel.org>, Linux RAID <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: "Missing" RAID devices
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 19:15:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130524171525.GA25643@www5.open-std.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <519F189D.6030103@hardwarefreak.com>
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 02:37:01AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> On 5/24/2013 1:32 AM, keld@keldix.com wrote:
> > On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 10:45:56PM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> >> On 5/23/2013 3:30 AM, keld@keldix.com wrote:
> >>> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 12:59:39AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> >>
> >>>> You may be tempted to use md/RAID10 of some layout
> >>>> to optimize for writes, but you'd gain nothing, and you'd lose some
> >>>> performance due to overhead. The partitions you'll be using in this
> >>>> case are so small that they easily fit in a single physical disk track,
> >>>> thus no head movement is required to seek between sectors, only rotation
> >>>> of the platter.
> >> ...
> >>> I think a raid10,far3 is a good choice for swap, then you will enjoy
> >>> RAID0-like reading speed. and good write speed (compared to raid6),
> >>> and a chance of live surviving if just one drive keeps functioning.
> >>
> >> As I mention above, none of the md/RAID10 layouts will yield any added
> >> performance benefit for swap partitions. And I state the reason why.
> >> If you think about this for a moment you should reach the same conclusion.
> >
> > I think it is you who are not fully aquainted with Linux MD. Linux
> > MD RAID10,far3 offers improved performance in single read,
>
> On most of today's systems, read performance is largely irrelevant WRT
> swap performance. However write performance is critical. None of the
> md/RAID10 layouts are going to increase write throughput over RAID1
> pairs. And all the mirrored RAIDs will be 2x slower than interleaved
> swap across direct disk partitions.
In my experience read performance from swap is critical, at least
on single user systems. Eg swapping in firefox or libreoffice
may take quite some time and there raid10,far helps by almost halfing
the time for the swapping in. writes are not important, as long as you are not trashing.
In general halfing the swapping in with raid10,far is nice for a process, but
for small processes it is not noticable for a laptop user or a
server user, say http or ftp.
best regards
keld
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-24 17:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-21 12:51 "Missing" RAID devices Jim Santos
2013-05-21 15:31 ` Phil Turmel
2013-05-21 22:22 ` Jim Santos
2013-05-22 0:02 ` Phil Turmel
2013-05-22 0:16 ` Jim Santos
2013-05-22 22:43 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-05-22 23:26 ` Phil Turmel
2013-05-23 5:59 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-05-23 8:30 ` keld
2013-05-24 3:45 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-05-24 6:32 ` keld
2013-05-24 7:37 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-05-24 17:15 ` keld [this message]
2013-05-24 19:05 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-05-24 19:22 ` keld
2013-05-25 1:42 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-05-24 9:23 ` David Brown
2013-05-24 18:03 ` keld
2013-05-23 8:22 ` David Brown
2013-05-21 16:23 ` Doug Ledford
2013-05-21 17:03 ` Drew
[not found] ` <519BDC8C.1040202@hardwarefreak.com>
2013-05-21 21:02 ` Drew
2013-05-21 22:06 ` Stan Hoeppner
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