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From: keld@keldix.com
To: Stan Hoeppner <stan@hardwarefreak.com>
Cc: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>, Gionatan Danti <g.danti@assyoma.it>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RAID 10 far and offset on-disk layouts
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 10:38:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140114093834.GB4077@www5.open-std.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52D488D7.4080604@hardwarefreak.com>

On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 06:46:15PM -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> On 1/13/2014 5:38 PM, keld@keldix.com wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 09:27:51AM +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> ...
> >> So this change:
> >>
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Non-standard_RAID_levels&diff=501908270&oldid=501604733
> >>
> >> was wrong.
> > 
> > Well, it was me doing the wikipedia edit. The edit was done based on information from Neil that this was actually 
> > the layout. Then later we found out that it really was not, but it should be; and then Neil implemented
> > the better layout.  Maybe it is not called "f2", I look forward to be informed what the actual name 
> > will be. 
> > 
> > I think the name should be "f2" as it is a "far" layout, with 2 copies, and it really should be
> > the default for "far" with 2 copies, as the redundancy is much better than the old layout.
> > Keeping the name would mean that  we would not need to make and spread documentation on this,
> > so that people following existing documentation would automatically get the better implementation.
> > There is no need that new raid instances of "far" should get the old layout, except for
> > backwards compatibility. 
> 
> The problem here is that you're creating the Wikipedia page as if it
> *is* source reference material.  I.e. you're including "original work,
> your original work.  This is a violation of the Wikipedia rules of
> editing.  And this kind of situation is exactly why those rules exist.


I am only referencing material available other places.

> The layout tables you are including need to exist in a free to duplicate
> reference document, and should be copied verbatim from said document.
> They should not be created from scratch simply based on information in
> an email exchange on a mailing list, just as web forums are not
> considered a valid reference source.

I only described things that was already described.

best regards
keld

  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-14  9:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-27 14:29 RAID 10 far and offset on-disk layouts Gionatan Danti
2013-12-27 14:46 ` Peter Grandi
2013-12-27 15:16 ` Gionatan Danti
2013-12-27 17:16   ` Peter Grandi
2013-12-27 17:32     ` Gionatan Danti
2013-12-27 18:26       ` keld
2013-12-27 15:19 ` keld
2013-12-27 15:22   ` Gionatan Danti
2013-12-27 15:49     ` keld
2014-01-09  8:03       ` Gionatan Danti
2014-01-12 23:20         ` NeilBrown
2014-01-13  8:52           ` Gionatan Danti
2014-01-13  9:45             ` NeilBrown
2014-01-13 10:15               ` Gionatan Danti
2014-01-13 22:27                 ` NeilBrown
2014-01-13 23:38                   ` keld
2014-01-14  0:46                     ` Stan Hoeppner
2014-01-14  9:38                       ` keld [this message]
2014-01-14  9:06                   ` Gionatan Danti
2014-01-14  9:16                     ` NeilBrown
2014-01-14  9:27                       ` Gionatan Danti
2014-01-14 10:06               ` keld

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