From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Roman Mamedov Subject: Re: md-raid paranoia mode? Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 12:28:14 +0600 Message-ID: <20140612122814.2db74377@natsu> References: <5397FBCE.3060009@bartk.us> <53990D44.300@fnarfbargle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/iYakQu7lSPo9doa_TJO7d6K"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: In-Reply-To: <53990D44.300@fnarfbargle.com> Sender: linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org To: Brad Campbell Cc: Bart Kus , linux-raid@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-raid.ids --Sig_/iYakQu7lSPo9doa_TJO7d6K Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 10:15:32 +0800 Brad Campbell wrote: > On 11/06/14 14:48, Bart Kus wrote: > > Hello, > > > > As far as I understand, md-raid relies on the underlying devices to > > inform it of IO errors before it'll seek redundant/parity data to > > fulfill the read request. I have, however, seen certain hard drives > > report successful reads while returning garbage data. >=20 > If you have drives that return garbage as valid data then you have far=20 > greater problems than what you are suggesting will fix. So much so I=20 > suggest you document these instances and start banging a drum announcing= =20 > them in a name and shame campaign. That sort of behavior from storage=20 > devices is never ok, and the manufacturer needs to know that. If your RAM can return garbage, that's not a justification for having ECC R= AM. ECC RAM is a gimmick invented by weak conformist people. Instead, you shoul= d go and loudly scream at the manufacturer who sold you that RAM! Errors from RAM are never OK! RAM should always work perfectly! And if it doesn't, you have greater problems. We shall not tolerate this behavior! So go get a drum and start banging it as loudly as you can! Name and shame the manufacturer who sold you that RAM. Fight the power, brother!!! You can probably tell just how sick I am of reasoning like yours. That's why we can't have nice things (md-side resiliency for the cases when you need/w= ant it), and sadly Neil is of the same opinion as you. --=20 With respect, Roman --Sig_/iYakQu7lSPo9doa_TJO7d6K Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlOZSH4ACgkQTLKSvz+PZwhDcQCgjU56bipX4GMstg08YF+rCAva sB4AnjMmEW+aoNCfmBCbOmoS9JewC7OT =XTMM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/iYakQu7lSPo9doa_TJO7d6K--