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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Qu Wenruo <wqu@suse.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	Carlos Maiolino <cem@kernel.org>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] xfs: fallback to buffered I/O for direct I/O when stable writes are required
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2025 06:58:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251030055851.GA12703@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8f384c85-e432-445e-afbf-0d9953584b05@suse.com>

On Thu, Oct 30, 2025 at 07:53:30AM +1030, Qu Wenruo wrote:
> Yep, a common helper will help, or even integrate the check into 
> __iomap_dio_rw().

Having the check in __iomap_dio_rw would be a last resort, because at
the point we've already done direct I/O specific locking we'd need to
unwind from, making the fallback slower than we'd have to.

> However I'm not sure if a warning will be that useful.
>
> If the warning is only outputted once like here, it doesn't show the ino 
> number to tell which file is affected.
> If the warning is shown every time, it will flood the dmesg.

While the flag is set on the address_space it is global (or semi global
for separate storage pools like the XFS RT device), so the inode number
doesn't really matter too much.

> It will be much straightforward if there is some flag allowing us to return 
> error directly if true zero-copy direct IO can not be executed.

I don't really understand this part.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-30  5:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-29  7:15 fall back from direct to buffered I/O when stable writes are required Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-29  7:15 ` [PATCH 1/4] fs: replace FOP_DIO_PARALLEL_WRITE with a fmode bits Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-29 16:01   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-11-04  7:00   ` Nirjhar Roy (IBM)
2025-11-05 14:04     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-11  9:44   ` Christian Brauner
2025-10-29  7:15 ` [PATCH 2/4] fs: return writeback errors for IOCB_DONTCACHE in generic_write_sync Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-29 16:01   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-10-29 16:37     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-29 18:12       ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-10-30  5:59         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-04 12:04       ` Nirjhar Roy (IBM)
2025-11-04 15:53         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-29  7:15 ` [PATCH 3/4] xfs: use IOCB_DONTCACHE when falling back to buffered writes Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-29 15:57   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-11-04 12:33   ` Nirjhar Roy (IBM)
2025-11-04 15:52     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-29  7:15 ` [PATCH 4/4] xfs: fallback to buffered I/O for direct I/O when stable writes are required Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-29 15:53   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-10-29 16:35     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-29 21:23       ` Qu Wenruo
2025-10-30  5:58         ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-10-30  6:37           ` Qu Wenruo
2025-10-30  6:49             ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-30  6:53               ` Qu Wenruo
2025-10-30  6:55                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-30  7:14                   ` Qu Wenruo
2025-10-30  7:17                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-10 13:38   ` Nirjhar Roy (IBM)
2025-11-10 13:59     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-12  7:13       ` Nirjhar Roy (IBM)
2025-10-29 15:58 ` fall back from direct to buffered " Bart Van Assche
2025-10-29 16:14   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-10-29 16:33   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-30 11:20 ` Dave Chinner
2025-10-30 12:00   ` Geoff Back
2025-10-30 12:54     ` Jan Kara
2025-10-30 14:35     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-30 22:02     ` Dave Chinner
2025-10-30 14:33   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-30 23:18     ` Dave Chinner
2025-10-31 13:00       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-31 15:57         ` Keith Busch
2025-10-31 16:47           ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-03 11:14             ` Jan Kara
2025-11-03 12:21               ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-03 22:47                 ` Keith Busch
2025-11-04 23:38                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-11-05 14:11                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-05 21:44                     ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-11-06  9:50                       ` Johannes Thumshirn
2025-11-06 12:49                         ` hch

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