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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Brad Campbell <brad@wasp.net.au>
Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Which raid card to buy for Sarge
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 00:44:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <406BAC2F.8090407@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <406B9F3E.4020701@wasp.net.au>

Brad Campbell wrote:
> Mark Hahn wrote:
> 
>>> If would not use the "raid" feature of the Highpoint cards, because 
>>> it is only software raid and not so performant as a hardware raid. If 
>>> you don't need a 
>>
>>
>>
>> please don't say things like this.  HW raid is *NOT* generally
>> faster or better than software raid.  yes, if you're building a 
>> quad-gigabit fileserver out of an old P5/100 you had sitting around,
>> you're not even going to start looking at sw raid.
> 
> 
> One point. Hardware raid (and faux hardware raid) provides real hot swap 
> with on-the-fly rebuilds.
> Linux software raid can't (yet).
> Both promise and highpoint proprietary ide raid drivers can, but no raw 
> kernel or libata drivers can as yet, and the interface between the 
> hotswap driver and md driver is no where near there.

No real need to have much interfacing.  As long as the low level 
hardware and driver support hotswap, md will notice when the drive stops 
responding, or starts spitting out nothing but errors.  Of course, it is 
the nice thing to do, to use mdadm to hot-remove the drive first :)


> With the Highpoint driver I get a drive failure and the card starts 
> beeping. I fire up the management util, remove the faulty drive, swap it 
> out and insert the new drive in the array. The array starts rebuilding - 
> no effect on the uptime and only a slight loss in throughput. Plus it's 
> seamless.

Yeah, md+mdadm can do all this right now, provided the hardware and 
driver support is there...

	Jeff




  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-04-01  5:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-31 15:47 Which raid card to buy for Sarge me
2004-03-31 16:15 ` Luca Berra
2004-03-31 16:43   ` me
2004-03-31 16:58     ` Måns Rullgård
2004-03-31 18:03       ` Ralph Paßgang
2004-03-31 19:50         ` Mark Hahn
2004-03-31 20:19           ` Richard Scobie
2004-04-01  9:07             ` KELEMEN Peter
2004-04-04  4:47               ` Richard Scobie
2004-04-09 11:16                 ` KELEMEN Peter
2004-04-09 13:07                   ` Which raid card to buy for SargeD Yu Chen
2004-04-09 21:52                     ` KELEMEN Peter
2004-03-31 20:42           ` Which raid card to buy for Sarge Ralph Paßgang
2004-03-31 20:59             ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-31 21:39             ` Guy
2004-04-01  4:49           ` Brad Campbell
2004-04-01  4:51             ` seth vidal
2004-04-01  5:01               ` Brad Campbell
2004-04-01  5:39                 ` Guy
2004-04-01  5:51                   ` Brad Campbell
2004-04-01  5:29             ` Guy
2004-04-01  5:54               ` Jeff Garzik
2004-04-01  5:44             ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2004-04-01  5:56               ` Brad Campbell
2004-04-01  7:49                 ` Sandro Dentella
2004-04-01  8:03                   ` Brad Campbell
2004-04-01  8:07                   ` Jeff Garzik
2004-04-16 14:25             ` Nick Maynard
2004-04-16 15:09               ` Måns Rullgård
2004-04-16 16:29                 ` Nick Maynard
2004-04-16 17:44                   ` Måns Rullgård
2004-04-16 22:34                   ` jlewis
2004-04-01  4:24 ` me
2004-04-01  4:57   ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2004-04-01  5:34     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-04-01  6:39       ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2004-04-01  5:58   ` Jeff Garzik
2004-04-01 12:52     ` me
2004-04-01 19:31       ` Terrence Martin
2004-04-02  4:46         ` me

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