From: berk walker <berk@panix.com>
To: Mark Hahn <hahn@physics.mcmaster.ca>
Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [OT] best tape backup system?
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 18:09:56 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <422101C4.20901@panix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0502261730450.14465-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
And worse yet, you have to run them to the end and then rewind them if
you are going to keep the data for long [the magnetic fields affect
layers near them]. An array of RAID1 disks, which sleep deeply [off]
between uses would probably be affordable, and last MUCH longer.
Just my 2 cents worth-
ya, well, that's what you get for 2 cents.
b-
Mark Hahn wrote:
>>Not sure if it is important to many people, but tapes take a lot less
>>electricity than online disks.
>>
>>
>
>do you really care? an active disk is about 15W, inactive 5W
>and asleep nearly zero. even assuming idle-but-spinning,
>I make that as about $2/year.
>
>tapes are wonderful in every way except one: they're finicky
>and difficult to care for properly. for instance, do you have
>a humidity and temperature-controlled place to store them?
>and have you actually logged the temp/hum for that to see
>whether, for instance, it gets warm on weekends?
>
>if I were forced to use tapes, I would insist on making 2+ copies
>of everything. note that this clearly hurt's tape's competitiveness
>WRT price, size, bandwidth, etc.
>
>I don't see any new tape installations that are not driven by
>secondary factors such as big piles of old data already on tape,
>or someone wanting to physically move the media into a vault.
>
>(on that topic, I don't buy the idea that tape's less vulnerable
>to hacking, either. just because your backup is on disk doesn't
>mean that it's online or accessible. similarly, just because
>your tape is in a separate cabinet doesn't mean that a sufficiently
>motivated badguy could not get the tape put into some drive...)
>
>regards, mark hahn.
>(buying many TB of disk this year and no tape)
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-02-26 23:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-02-22 10:28 [OT] best tape backup system? Louis-David Mitterrand
2005-02-22 11:05 ` Lajber Zoltan
2005-02-22 15:41 ` Gordon Henderson
2005-02-22 16:50 ` Guy
2005-02-22 17:40 ` Gordon Henderson
2005-02-22 21:39 ` Guy
2005-02-22 21:52 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-02-23 1:26 ` Guy
2005-02-23 18:28 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-02-23 19:46 ` Guy
2005-02-22 22:07 ` Jon Lewis
2005-02-22 22:13 ` Alvin Oga
2005-02-22 22:36 ` Jon Lewis
2005-02-22 22:48 ` David Dougall
2005-02-26 22:40 ` Mark Hahn
2005-02-26 23:09 ` berk walker [this message]
2005-02-22 23:00 ` Alvin Oga
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