From: Mike Tran <mhtran@us.ibm.com>
To: Neil Brown <neilb@cse.unsw.edu.au>
Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Spare disk could not sleep / standby
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 09:59:48 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <422DCBF4.9060306@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16941.11443.107607.735855@cse.unsw.edu.au>
Neil Brown wrote:
>On Monday March 7, bugzilla@watkins-home.com wrote:
>
>
>>I have no idea, but...
>>
>>Is the disk IO reads or writes. If writes, scary!!!! Maybe data destined
>>for the array goes to the spare sometimes. I hope not. I feel safe with my
>>2.4 kernel. :)
>>
>>
>
>It is writes, but don't be scared. It is just super-block updates.
>
>In 2.6, the superblock is marked 'clean' whenever there is a period of
>about 20ms of no write activity. This increases the chance on a
>resync won't be needed after a crash.
>(unfortunately) the superblocks on the spares need to be updated too.
>
>The only way around this that I can think of is to have the spares
>attached to some other array, and have mdadm monitoring the situation
>and using the SpareGroup functionality to move the spare to where it
>is needed when it is needed.
>This would really require having and array with spare drives but no
>data drives... maybe a 1-drive raid1 with a loopback device as the
>main drive, and all the spares attached to that..... there must be a
>better way, or atleast some sensible support in mdadm to make it not
>too horrible. I'll think about it.
>
>
>
While updating superblocks, faulty disks are skipped. Maybe skipping
superblock update on spares could be considered. Of course, this
requires conresponding changes in md superblock validation code.
In addition, I would suggest to treat spares as shared global disks.
That is a spare can be referenced by more than 1 md array. After a
spare is selected to recover a degraded array, it will be removed from
the shared list. I know that this suggestion is away from the
SpareGroup functionality used by mdadm. But I am afraid that there is
timing issue with monitoring /proc/mdstat.
--
Regards,
Mike T.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-03-08 15:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-08 4:05 Spare disk could not sleep / standby Peter Evertz
2005-03-08 4:14 ` Guy
2005-03-08 4:40 ` Neil Brown
2005-03-08 5:20 ` Molle Bestefich
2005-03-08 5:36 ` Neil Brown
2005-03-08 5:46 ` Molle Bestefich
2005-03-08 6:03 ` Neil Brown
2005-03-08 6:24 ` Molle Bestefich
[not found] ` <422D625C.5020803@medien.uni-weimar.de>
2005-03-08 8:57 ` Molle Bestefich
2005-03-08 10:51 ` Tobias Hofmann
2005-03-08 13:13 ` Gordon Henderson
2005-03-09 5:11 ` Brad Campbell
2005-03-09 9:03 ` Tobias Hofmann
2005-03-08 8:51 ` David Greaves
2005-03-08 15:59 ` Mike Tran [this message]
2005-03-09 15:53 ` Spare disk could not sleep / standby [probably dangerous PATCH] Peter Evertz
2005-03-09 10:44 ` Mike Tran
2005-03-09 20:05 ` Peter Evertz
2005-03-09 16:29 ` Mike Tran
2005-03-09 23:20 ` Peter Evertz
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