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From: Brad Campbell <brad@wasp.net.au>
To: Gordon Henderson <gordon@drogon.net>
Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Spare disk could not sleep / standby
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 09:11:38 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <422E858A.5090602@wasp.net.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.56.0503081133140.4055@lion.drogon.net>

Gordon Henderson wrote:
> 
> I'm in the middle of building up a new home server - looking at RAID-5 or
> 6 and 2.6.x, so maybe it's time to look at all this again, but it sounds
> like the auto superblock update might thwart it all now...

Nah... As far as I can tell, 20ms after the last write, the auto superblock update will write the 
array as clean. You can then spin the disks down as you normally would after a delay. It's just like 
a normal write. There is an overhead I guess, where prior to the next write it's going to mark the 
superblocks as dirty. I wonder in your case if this would spin up *all* the disks at once, or do a 
staged spin up, given it's going to touch all the disks "at the same time"?

I have my Raid-6 with ext3 and a commit time of 30s. With a idle system, it really stays idle. 
Nothing touches the disks. If I wanted to spin them down I could do that.

The thing I *love* about this feature, is when I do something totally stupid and panic the box, 90% 
of the time I don't need a resync as the array was marked clean after the last write. Thanks Neil!

Just for yuk's, here are a couple of photos of my latest Frankenstein. 3TB of Raid-6 in a Midi-Tower 
case. Had to re-wire the PSU internally to export an extra 12v rail to an appropriate place however.

I have been beating Raid-6 senseless for the last week now and doing horrid things to the hardware. 
I'm now completely confident in its stability and ready to use it for production. Thanks HPA!

http://www.wasp.net.au/~brad/nas/nas-front.jpg
http://www.wasp.net.au/~brad/nas/nas-psu.jpg
http://www.wasp.net.au/~brad/nas/nas-rear.jpg
http://www.wasp.net.au/~brad/nas/nas-side.jpg


Regards,
Brad
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-09  5:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-08  4:05 Spare disk could not sleep / standby Peter Evertz
2005-03-08  4:14 ` Guy
2005-03-08  4:40   ` Neil Brown
2005-03-08  5:20     ` Molle Bestefich
2005-03-08  5:36       ` Neil Brown
2005-03-08  5:46         ` Molle Bestefich
2005-03-08  6:03           ` Neil Brown
2005-03-08  6:24             ` Molle Bestefich
     [not found]               ` <422D625C.5020803@medien.uni-weimar.de>
2005-03-08  8:57                 ` Molle Bestefich
2005-03-08 10:51                   ` Tobias Hofmann
2005-03-08 13:13                     ` Gordon Henderson
2005-03-09  5:11                       ` Brad Campbell [this message]
2005-03-09  9:03                       ` Tobias Hofmann
2005-03-08  8:51         ` David Greaves
2005-03-08 15:59     ` Mike Tran
2005-03-09 15:53     ` Spare disk could not sleep / standby [probably dangerous PATCH] Peter Evertz
2005-03-09 10:44       ` Mike Tran
2005-03-09 20:05         ` Peter Evertz
2005-03-09 16:29           ` Mike Tran
2005-03-09 23:20             ` Peter Evertz

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