From: Paul Clements <paul.clements@steeleye.com>
To: "Peter T. Breuer" <ptb@lab.it.uc3m.es>
Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] md bitmap bug fixes
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:19:37 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <423F3A69.5090502@steeleye.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <qbo3h2-kjo.ln1@news.it.uc3m.es>
Peter T. Breuer wrote:
> Paul Clements <paul.clements@steeleye.com> wrote:
>
>>At any rate, this is all irrelevant given the second part of that email
>>reply that I gave. You still have to do the bitmap combining, regardless
>>of whether two systems were active at the same time or not.
> But why don't we already know from the _single_ bitmap on the array
> node ("the node with the array") what to rewrite in total? All writes
> must go through the array. We know how many didn't go to both
> components. Thus we know how many to rewrite from the survivor to the
> component that we lost contact with.
I don't think we're talking about the same thing. I'm talking about this:
1) you have an array set up on system A:
system A
[raid1]
/ \
[disk] [nbd] --> system B
2) you're writing, say, block 10 to the raid1 when A crashes (block 10
is dirty in the bitmap, and you don't know whether it got written to the
disk on A or B, neither, or both)
3) something (i.e., your cluster framework) notices that A is gone and
brings up a new raid1, with an empty bitmap, on system B:
system B
[raid1]
/ \
[disk] missing (eventually will connect back to system A)
4) some things get written to the raid1 on system B (i.e., the bitmap is
dirty)
5) system A comes back and we now want to get the two systems back in sync
In this scenario, there are two bitmaps that must be consulted in order
to sync the proper blocks back to system A. Without bitmaps (or the
ability to combine the bitmaps), you must do a full resync from B to A.
--
Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-03-21 21:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-09 22:18 [PATCH 1/2] md bitmap bug fixes Paul Clements
2005-03-09 22:19 ` [PATCH 2/2] " Paul Clements
2005-03-14 4:43 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Neil Brown
2005-03-14 9:44 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-03-14 10:22 ` Neil Brown
2005-03-14 11:24 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-03-14 22:54 ` Neil Brown
2005-03-18 10:33 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-03-18 12:52 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-03-18 13:42 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-03-18 14:50 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-03-18 17:03 ` Paul Clements
2005-03-18 18:43 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-03-18 19:01 ` Mario Holbe
2005-03-18 19:33 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-03-18 20:24 ` Mario Holbe
2005-03-18 21:01 ` Andy Smith
2005-03-19 11:43 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-03-19 12:58 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-03-19 13:27 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-03-19 14:07 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-03-19 15:06 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-03-19 15:24 ` Mario Holbe
2005-03-19 15:58 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-03-19 16:24 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-03-19 17:19 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-03-19 17:36 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-03-19 17:44 ` Guy
2005-03-19 17:54 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-03-19 18:05 ` Guy
2005-03-19 20:29 ` berk walker
2005-03-19 18:11 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-03-18 19:43 ` Paul Clements
2005-03-19 12:10 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-03-21 16:07 ` Paul Clements
2005-03-21 18:56 ` Luca Berra
2005-03-21 19:58 ` Paul Clements
2005-03-21 20:45 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-03-21 21:09 ` Gil
2005-03-21 21:19 ` Paul Clements [this message]
2005-03-21 22:15 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-03-22 22:35 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-03-21 21:32 ` Guy
2005-03-22 9:35 ` Luca Berra
2005-03-22 10:02 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-03-23 20:31 ` Luca Berra
2005-03-25 18:51 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-03-25 20:54 ` berk walker
2005-03-25 20:56 ` berk walker
2005-03-18 17:16 ` Luca Berra
2005-03-18 17:57 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-03-18 21:46 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-03-19 9:05 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2005-03-19 12:16 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-03-19 12:34 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-03-19 12:53 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-03-19 16:08 ` "Robust Read" (was: [PATCH 1/2] md bitmap bug fixes) Michael Tokarev
2005-03-19 17:03 ` "Robust Read" Peter T. Breuer
2005-03-19 20:20 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-03-19 20:56 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-03-19 22:05 ` Michael Tokarev
2005-03-19 22:30 ` Peter T. Breuer
2005-03-15 4:24 ` [PATCH 1/2] md bitmap bug fixes Paul Clements
2005-03-17 20:51 ` [PATCH 0/3] md bitmap-based asynchronous writes Paul Clements
2005-03-17 20:53 ` [PATCH 1/3] md bitmap async write enabling Paul Clements
2005-03-17 20:55 ` [PATCH 2/3] md bitmap async writes for raid1 Paul Clements
2005-03-17 20:56 ` [PATCH 3/3] mdadm: bitmap async writes Paul Clements
2005-03-21 4:21 ` [PATCH 0/3] md bitmap-based asynchronous writes Neil Brown
2005-03-21 16:31 ` Paul Clements
2005-03-21 22:09 ` Neil Brown
2005-03-22 8:35 ` Peter T. Breuer
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