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From: Tobias Hofmann <tobias.hofmann@medien.uni-weimar.de>
To: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Brad Campbell <brad@wasp.net.au>,
	"Callahan, Tom" <CallahanT@tessco.com>,
	'Andargor The Wise' <andargor@yahoo.com>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: First RAID Setup
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:08:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43A275EA.9020104@medien.uni-weimar.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17314.7734.707554.88728@cse.unsw.edu.au>

On 16.12.2005 02:53, Neil Brown wrote:
> On Thursday December 15, tobias.hofmann@medien.uni-weimar.de wrote:
> 
>><delurk>
>>
>>On 15.12.2005 21:46, Brad Campbell wrote:
>>
>>>Callahan, Tom wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>It is always wise to build in a spare however, that being said about all
>>>>raid levels. In your configuration, if a disk fails in your RAID5, your
>>>>array will go down. RAID5 is usually 3+ disks, with a mirror. So you 
>>>>should
>>>>have 3 disks at minimum, and then a 4th as a spare.
>>>
>>>/me wonders in the days of reliable RAID-6 why we use RAID-5 + spare?
>>
>>Me too. ;) So, with holidays ahead, two questions (as I might tackle 
>>that soon and have not found it mentioned):
>>
>>- How would one "switch" from the latter to the former? Is there 
>>something like "grow_to_RAID_6"?
> 
> 
> No... at least not yet....

Hm. :) Around here, it is pretty much Christmas time, with all the 
"wishing" going on - hint, hint? ;)

>>- Does RAID6 have disadvantages wrt write speed?
> 
> Probably.  I haven't done any measurements myself, but from a
> theoretical standpoint, you would expect raid6 to impose more CPU load
> (though that may not be noticeable) and as raid6 need to see the whole
> stripe to update the P and Q blocks (it cannot do a subtract old, add
> new update) there could well be more IO happening, particularly on
> large arrays (>5 devices).

That,s about the line of thinking I was considering. I,ll see, if I 
tackle this over the holidays, to do some tests...

> Of course, whether this caused noticeable reduction in throughput and
> latency would be very workload-dependant.

My scenarios here @home will probably not be very relevant to what one 
would like to know in a production environment - whatever that is... :)

Thanks for the input, Neil,

greets, tobi... :)


  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-16  8:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-15 20:02 First RAID Setup Callahan, Tom
2005-12-15 20:22 ` Andargor The Wise
2005-12-15 20:46 ` Brad Campbell
2005-12-15 21:31   ` Tobias Hofmann
2005-12-16  1:51     ` Max Waterman
2005-12-16  8:01       ` Tobias Hofmann
2005-12-16  1:53     ` Neil Brown
2005-12-16  8:08       ` Tobias Hofmann [this message]
2005-12-19  1:02         ` Neil Brown
2005-12-19  9:03           ` Max Waterman
2005-12-16  8:42       ` Gordon Henderson
2005-12-22 14:20   ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-22 14:24     ` Mattias Wadenstein
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-12-22 17:03 Andrew Burgess
2005-12-15 21:46 Callahan, Tom
2005-12-15 20:37 Callahan, Tom
2005-12-17  0:00 ` Andargor The Wise
2005-12-17  2:01   ` Andargor The Wise
2005-12-18 22:08     ` Andargor The Wise
2005-12-22 14:27       ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-22 15:00         ` Andargor The Wise
2005-12-15 19:35 Callahan, Tom
2005-12-15 19:44 ` Andargor The Wise
2005-12-22 14:00 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-15 19:09 Andargor The Wise

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