linux-raid.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: it <itech@kfa.org>
To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: block level vs. file level
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 17:16:39 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43EFDDF7.6090405@kfa.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060212213157.GX32687@strugglers.net>

>
>
>Yes, and it's a pain, but if you have to deal with it I think the
>wealth of options in md leaves you better able to handle it than
>with hardware RAID.  Here's something that happened to me:
>
>http://strugglers.net/wiki/becks.strugglers.net
>

Ouch.

How does hardware raid deal with this? Does it?

Thanks,
A.


Andy Smith wrote:

>On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 11:31:07AM -0800, it wrote:
>  
>
>>The hardware raid does the mirroring on the block level, so it's 
>>actually /dev/sda mirroring /dev/sdb - the whole drive, and not 
>>partitions. There is a way to set this up on software raid. It takes 
>>more configuration tweaking, but the mirroring then includes the 
>>partition table as well. This way, if a drive fails, one can replace it 
>>without pre-partitioning it.
>>    
>>
>
>That can be less flexible though.  If I have say 4 drives then I
>quite often want small /boot, / and swap under RAID-1 then the rest
>as a single large partition in RAID-5, -6 or -10 as an LVM PV.
>
>  
>
>>This also raises another point, which is relevant for both cases - same 
>>exact models of hard disks have different number of cylinders, so if a 
>>RAID partition is created on a larger drive it cannot be mirrored to a 
>>smaller drive.
>>    
>>
>
>Same exact models don't usually have different block counts, but
>certainly if you replace a dead drive with a different one of the
>same advertised capacity you can end up getting one slightly
>smaller.
>
>  
>
>>Does anyone have any experience with this?
>>    
>>
>
>Yes, and it's a pain, but if you have to deal with it I think the
>wealth of options in md leaves you better able to handle it than
>with hardware RAID.  Here's something that happened to me:
>
>http://strugglers.net/wiki/becks.strugglers.net
>
>  
>


  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-13  1:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-12 19:31 block level vs. file level it
2006-02-12 21:31 ` Andy Smith
2006-02-13  1:16   ` it [this message]
2006-02-20 16:53     ` Molle Bestefich
2006-02-26  5:11       ` Bill Davidsen
2006-03-03 14:07         ` Molle Bestefich
2006-02-19  0:38   ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-13  8:48 ` PFC
2006-02-13 12:01   ` Andy Smith

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=43EFDDF7.6090405@kfa.org \
    --to=itech@kfa.org \
    --cc=linux-raid@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).