From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Stephen C Woods <scw@seas.ucla.edu>
Cc: Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>, Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>,
Eyal Lebedinsky <eyal@eyal.emu.id.au>,
linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: PATA/SATA Disk Reliability paper
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:06:15 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <45E48127.9020007@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070222233021.GA10618@seas.ucla.edu>
Stephen C Woods wrote:
> As he leans on his cane, the old codger says....
> Well Disks used to come in open cannisters, that is you took the bottom
> cover off, and then put the whould pack into the drive, and then
> unscrewed the top cover and took it out.. Clearly ventilated. C 1975.
>
> Later we got sealed drives, Kennedy 180 MB Winchesters they were
> called (the used IBM 3030 technology). The had a vent pipe with two
> filters, you replaced the outer one every 90days (as part of the PM
> process). The inner one you didn't touch. Aparently they figured that
> it'd be a long time before the inner one got really clogged at 10 min
> exposure every 90 days. C 1980
>
> Still later we had a Mainframe running Un*x, it used IBM 3080 drives
> these had huge HDA boxes that wree sealed but hav vent filters that had
> to be changed every PM (30 days, 2 hours of down time to do them
> all). C 1985.
>
> So drives do need to be ventilated, not so much wory about exploding,
> but rather subtle distortion of the case as the atmospheric preasure
> changed.
>
> Doe anyone rememnber that you had to let you drives acclimate to your
> machine room for a day or so before you used them.
>
> Ah the good old days...
> HUH???
>
> <scw>
I remember the DSU-10, 16 million 36 bit words of storage, which not
only wanted to be acclimatized, but had platters so large, over a meter
in diameter, that ther was a short crane mounting point on the box.
Failure rate went WAY down after better air filters were installed.
I think they were made for GE by CDC, but never knew for sure. GE was a
mainframe manufacturer until 1970, their big claim to fame was the
GE-645, the development platform for MULTICS. They sold the computer
business, mainframe and industrial control, in 1970 to put money into
nuclear energy, and haven't built a power plant since. Then the
developed a personal computer in 1978, built a plant to manufacture it
in Waynesboro VA, and decided there was no market for a small computer.
--
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
CTO TMR Associates, Inc
Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-02-27 19:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-02-18 18:50 PATA/SATA Disk Reliability paper Richard Scobie
2007-02-19 11:26 ` Al Boldi
2007-02-19 21:42 ` Eyal Lebedinsky
2007-02-20 12:15 ` Al Boldi
2007-02-22 22:27 ` Nix
2007-02-22 22:30 ` Nix
2007-02-22 23:30 ` Stephen C Woods
2007-02-23 18:22 ` Al Boldi
2007-02-24 22:27 ` Mark Hahn
2007-02-25 11:22 ` Al Boldi
2007-02-25 17:40 ` Mark Hahn
[not found] ` <200702252057.22963.a1426z@gawab.com>
2007-02-25 19:58 ` Mark Hahn
2007-02-25 21:07 ` Al Boldi
2007-02-25 22:14 ` Mark Hahn
2007-02-25 22:46 ` Benjamin Davenport
2007-02-25 23:58 ` Mark Hahn
2007-02-27 19:21 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-02-25 19:02 ` Richard Scobie
2007-02-27 19:06 ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2007-02-26 14:15 ` Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
2007-02-26 17:46 ` Al Boldi
2007-02-20 3:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
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