From: Peter Rabbitson <rabbit@rabbit.us>
To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: mismatch_cnt questions - how about raid10?
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:56:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <45ED48DB.6030002@rabbit.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17901.16476.282987.982971@notabene.brown>
Neil Brown wrote:
> On Tuesday March 6, rabbit@rabbit.us wrote:
>> Neil Brown wrote:
>>> When we write to a raid1, the data is DMAed from memory out to each
>>> device independently, so if the memory changes between the two (or
>>> more) DMA operations, you will get inconsistency between the devices.
>> Does this apply to raid 10 devices too? And in case of LVM if swap is on
>> top of a LV which is a part of a VG which has a single PV as the raid
>> array - will this happen as well? Or will the LVM layer take the data
>> once and distribute exact copies of it to the PVs (in this case just the
>> raid) effectively giving the raid array invariable data?
>
> Yes, it applies to raid10 too.
>
> I don't know the details of the inner workings of LVM, but I doubt it
> will make a difference. Copying the data in memory is just too costly
> to do if it can be avoided. With LVM and raid1/10 it can be avoided
> with no significant cost.
> With raid4/5/6, not copying into the cache can cause data corruption.
> So we always copy.
>
I see. So basically for those of us who want to run swap on raid 1 or
10, and at the same time want to rely on mismatch_cnt for early problem
detection, the only option is to create a separate md device just for
the swap. Is this about right?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-03-06 10:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-03-04 11:22 mismatch_cnt questions Christian Pernegger
2007-03-04 11:50 ` Neil Brown
2007-03-04 12:01 ` Christian Pernegger
2007-03-04 22:19 ` Neil Brown
2007-03-06 10:04 ` mismatch_cnt questions - how about raid10? Peter Rabbitson
2007-03-06 10:20 ` Neil Brown
2007-03-06 10:56 ` Peter Rabbitson [this message]
2007-03-06 10:59 ` Justin Piszcz
2007-03-12 5:35 ` Neil Brown
2007-03-12 14:26 ` Peter Rabbitson
2007-03-04 21:21 ` mismatch_cnt questions Eyal Lebedinsky
2007-03-04 22:30 ` Neil Brown
2007-03-05 7:45 ` Eyal Lebedinsky
2007-03-05 14:56 ` detecting/correcting _slightly_ flaky disks Michael Stumpf
2007-03-05 15:09 ` Justin Piszcz
2007-03-05 17:01 ` Michael Stumpf
2007-03-05 17:11 ` Justin Piszcz
2007-03-07 0:14 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-07 1:37 ` Michael Stumpf
2007-03-07 13:57 ` berk walker
2007-03-07 15:01 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-05 23:40 ` mismatch_cnt questions Neil Brown
2007-03-07 0:22 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-08 6:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-03-08 13:54 ` Martin K. Petersen
2007-03-09 2:00 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-09 4:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-03-09 5:20 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-08 6:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-03-08 7:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-03-08 8:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-03-13 9:58 ` Andre Noll
2007-03-13 23:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-03-06 6:27 ` Paul Davidson
2008-05-12 11:16 ` Bas van Schaik
2008-05-12 14:31 ` Justin Piszcz
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