* is this raid5 OK ?
@ 2007-03-29 17:38 Rainer Fuegenstein
2007-03-29 22:35 ` Justin Piszcz
2007-03-30 0:22 ` Neil Brown
0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Rainer Fuegenstein @ 2007-03-29 17:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-raid
hi,
I manually created my first raid5 on 4 400 GB pata harddisks:
[root@server ~]# mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --level=5 --raid-devices=4 --spare-devices=0 /dev/hde1 /dev/hdf1 /dev/hdg1 /dev/hdh1
mdadm: layout defaults to left-symmetric
mdadm: chunk size defaults to 64K
mdadm: size set to 390708736K
mdadm: array /dev/md0 started.
but, mdstat shows:
[root@server ~]# cat /proc/mdstat
Personalities : [raid6] [raid5] [raid4]
md0 : active raid5 hdh1[4] hdg1[2] hdf1[1] hde1[0]
1172126208 blocks level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 2 [4/3] [UUU_]
unused devices: <none>
I'm surprised to see that there's one "failed" device [UUU_] ?
shouldn't it read [UUUU] ?
root@alfred ~]# mdadm --detail --scan mdadm --misc --detail /dev/md0
mdadm: cannot open mdadm: No such file or directory
/dev/md0:
Version : 00.90.03
Creation Time : Thu Mar 29 19:21:29 2007
Raid Level : raid5
Array Size : 1172126208 (1117.83 GiB 1200.26 GB)
Device Size : 390708736 (372.61 GiB 400.09 GB)
Raid Devices : 4
Total Devices : 4
Preferred Minor : 0
Persistence : Superblock is persistent
Update Time : Thu Mar 29 19:37:07 2007
State : clean
Active Devices : 4
Working Devices : 4
Failed Devices : 0
Spare Devices : 0
Layout : left-symmetric
Chunk Size : 64K
UUID : 08c98d1b:d0b5614d:d6893163:61d4bf1b
Events : 0.596
Number Major Minor RaidDevice State
0 33 1 0 active sync /dev/hde1
1 33 65 1 active sync /dev/hdf1
2 34 1 2 active sync /dev/hdg1
2 0 0 0 removed
4 34 65 4 active sync /dev/hdh1
... and why is there a "removed" entry ?
sorry if these questions are stupid, but this is my first raid5 and
I'm a bit worried.
cu
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread* Re: is this raid5 OK ? 2007-03-29 17:38 is this raid5 OK ? Rainer Fuegenstein @ 2007-03-29 22:35 ` Justin Piszcz 2007-03-30 0:22 ` Neil Brown 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Justin Piszcz @ 2007-03-29 22:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rainer Fuegenstein; +Cc: linux-raid On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Rainer Fuegenstein wrote: > hi, > > I manually created my first raid5 on 4 400 GB pata harddisks: > > [root@server ~]# mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --level=5 --raid-devices=4 --spare-devices=0 /dev/hde1 /dev/hdf1 /dev/hdg1 /dev/hdh1 > mdadm: layout defaults to left-symmetric > mdadm: chunk size defaults to 64K > mdadm: size set to 390708736K > mdadm: array /dev/md0 started. > > but, mdstat shows: > > [root@server ~]# cat /proc/mdstat > Personalities : [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] > md0 : active raid5 hdh1[4] hdg1[2] hdf1[1] hde1[0] > 1172126208 blocks level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 2 [4/3] [UUU_] > > unused devices: <none> > > I'm surprised to see that there's one "failed" device [UUU_] ? > shouldn't it read [UUUU] ? > > root@alfred ~]# mdadm --detail --scan mdadm --misc --detail /dev/md0 > mdadm: cannot open mdadm: No such file or directory > /dev/md0: > Version : 00.90.03 > Creation Time : Thu Mar 29 19:21:29 2007 > Raid Level : raid5 > Array Size : 1172126208 (1117.83 GiB 1200.26 GB) > Device Size : 390708736 (372.61 GiB 400.09 GB) > Raid Devices : 4 > Total Devices : 4 > Preferred Minor : 0 > Persistence : Superblock is persistent > > Update Time : Thu Mar 29 19:37:07 2007 > State : clean > Active Devices : 4 > Working Devices : 4 > Failed Devices : 0 > Spare Devices : 0 > > Layout : left-symmetric > Chunk Size : 64K > > UUID : 08c98d1b:d0b5614d:d6893163:61d4bf1b > Events : 0.596 > > Number Major Minor RaidDevice State > 0 33 1 0 active sync /dev/hde1 > 1 33 65 1 active sync /dev/hdf1 > 2 34 1 2 active sync /dev/hdg1 > 2 0 0 0 removed > > 4 34 65 4 active sync /dev/hdh1 > > > ... and why is there a "removed" entry ? > > sorry if these questions are stupid, but this is my first raid5 and > I'm a bit worried. > > cu > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Strange, it should read [UUUU].. Correct, I would mdadm --zero-superblock on all those drives and re-create the array (mdadm -S (stop it first)) of course before you do it. Justin. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: is this raid5 OK ? 2007-03-29 17:38 is this raid5 OK ? Rainer Fuegenstein 2007-03-29 22:35 ` Justin Piszcz @ 2007-03-30 0:22 ` Neil Brown 2007-03-30 5:51 ` Dan Williams 2007-03-30 11:43 ` Rainer Fuegenstein 1 sibling, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Neil Brown @ 2007-03-30 0:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rainer Fuegenstein; +Cc: linux-raid On Thursday March 29, rfu@kaneda.iguw.tuwien.ac.at wrote: > hi, > > I manually created my first raid5 on 4 400 GB pata harddisks: > > [root@server ~]# mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --level=5 --raid-devices=4 --spare-devices=0 /dev/hde1 /dev/hdf1 /dev/hdg1 /dev/hdh1 > mdadm: layout defaults to left-symmetric > mdadm: chunk size defaults to 64K > mdadm: size set to 390708736K > mdadm: array /dev/md0 started. > > but, mdstat shows: > > [root@server ~]# cat /proc/mdstat > Personalities : [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] > md0 : active raid5 hdh1[4] hdg1[2] hdf1[1] hde1[0] > 1172126208 blocks level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 2 [4/3] [UUU_] > > unused devices: <none> > > I'm surprised to see that there's one "failed" device [UUU_] ? > shouldn't it read [UUUU] ? It should read "UUU_" at first while building the 4th drive (rebuilding a missing drive is faster that calculating and writing all the parity blocks). But it doesn't seem to be doing that. What kernel version? Try the latest 2.6.x.y in that series. NeilBrown ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: is this raid5 OK ? 2007-03-30 0:22 ` Neil Brown @ 2007-03-30 5:51 ` Dan Williams 2007-03-30 11:43 ` Rainer Fuegenstein 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Dan Williams @ 2007-03-30 5:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Neil Brown; +Cc: Rainer Fuegenstein, linux-raid On 3/29/07, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de> wrote: > On Thursday March 29, rfu@kaneda.iguw.tuwien.ac.at wrote: > > hi, > > > > I manually created my first raid5 on 4 400 GB pata harddisks: > > > > [root@server ~]# mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --level=5 --raid-devices=4 --spare-devices=0 /dev/hde1 /dev/hdf1 /dev/hdg1 /dev/hdh1 > > mdadm: layout defaults to left-symmetric > > mdadm: chunk size defaults to 64K > > mdadm: size set to 390708736K > > mdadm: array /dev/md0 started. > > > > but, mdstat shows: > > > > [root@server ~]# cat /proc/mdstat > > Personalities : [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] > > md0 : active raid5 hdh1[4] hdg1[2] hdf1[1] hde1[0] > > 1172126208 blocks level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 2 [4/3] [UUU_] > > > > unused devices: <none> > > > > I'm surprised to see that there's one "failed" device [UUU_] ? > > shouldn't it read [UUUU] ? > > It should read "UUU_" at first while building the 4th drive > (rebuilding a missing drive is faster that calculating and writing all > the parity blocks). But it doesn't seem to be doing that. > > What kernel version? Try the latest 2.6.x.y in that series. > I have seen something similar with older versions of mdadm when specifying all the member drives at once. Does the following kick things into action? mdadm --create /dev/md0 -n 4 -l 5 /dev/hd[efg]1 missing mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/hdh1 -- Dan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: is this raid5 OK ? 2007-03-30 0:22 ` Neil Brown 2007-03-30 5:51 ` Dan Williams @ 2007-03-30 11:43 ` Rainer Fuegenstein 2007-03-30 16:28 ` Bill Davidsen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Rainer Fuegenstein @ 2007-03-30 11:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Neil Brown; +Cc: linux-raid hi, 1) the kernel was: [root@alfred ~]# uname -a Linux alfred 2.6.19-1.2288.fc5xen0 #1 SMP Sat Feb 10 16:57:02 EST 2007 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux now upgraded to: [root@alfred ~]# uname -a Linux alfred 2.6.20-1.2307.fc5xen0 #1 SMP Sun Mar 18 21:59:42 EDT 2007 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux OS is fedora core 6 [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --version mdadm - v2.3.1 - 6 February 2006 2) I got the impression that the old 350W power supply was to weak, I replaced it by a 400W version. 3) re-created the raid: [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --misc --zero-superblock /dev/hde1 [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --misc --zero-superblock /dev/hdf1 [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --misc --zero-superblock /dev/hdg1 [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --misc --zero-superblock /dev/hdh1 [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --level=5 --raid-devices=4 --spare-devices=0 /dev/hde1 /dev/hdf1 /dev/hdg1 /dev/hdh1 mdadm: layout defaults to left-symmetric mdadm: chunk size defaults to 64K mdadm: size set to 390708736K mdadm: array /dev/md0 started. [root@alfred ~]# cat /proc/mdstat Personalities : [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] md0 : active raid5 hdh1[4] hdg1[2] hdf1[1] hde1[0] 1172126208 blocks level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 2 [4/3] [UUU_] unused devices: <none> same as before. 4) did as dan suggested: [root@alfred ~]# mdadm -S /dev/md0 [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --misc --zero-superblock /dev/hde1 [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --misc --zero-superblock /dev/hdf1 [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --misc --zero-superblock /dev/hdg1 [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --misc --zero-superblock /dev/hdh1 [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --create /dev/md0 -n 4 -l 5 /dev/hd[efg]1 missing mdadm: array /dev/md0 started. [root@alfred ~]# cat /proc/mdstat Personalities : [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] md0 : active raid5 hdg1[2] hdf1[1] hde1[0] 1172126208 blocks level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 2 [4/3] [UUU_] unused devices: <none> [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/hdh1 mdadm: added /dev/hdh1 [root@alfred ~]# cat /proc/mdstat Personalities : [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] md0 : active raid5 hdh1[4] hdg1[2] hdf1[1] hde1[0] 1172126208 blocks level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 2 [4/3] [UUU_] [>....................] recovery = 0.0% (47984/390708736) finish=406.9min speed=15994K/sec unused devices: <none> seems like it's working now - tnx ! cu ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: is this raid5 OK ? 2007-03-30 11:43 ` Rainer Fuegenstein @ 2007-03-30 16:28 ` Bill Davidsen 2007-03-30 18:23 ` Rainer Fuegenstein 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Bill Davidsen @ 2007-03-30 16:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rainer Fuegenstein; +Cc: Neil Brown, linux-raid Rainer Fuegenstein wrote: > hi, > > 1) the kernel was: > [root@alfred ~]# uname -a > Linux alfred 2.6.19-1.2288.fc5xen0 #1 SMP Sat Feb 10 16:57:02 EST 2007 > i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux > > now upgraded to: > > [root@alfred ~]# uname -a > Linux alfred 2.6.20-1.2307.fc5xen0 #1 SMP Sun Mar 18 21:59:42 EDT 2007 > i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux > > OS is fedora core 6 > > [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --version > mdadm - v2.3.1 - 6 February 2006 > > 2) I got the impression that the old 350W power supply was to weak, I > replaced it by a 400W version. > > 3) re-created the raid: > > [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --misc --zero-superblock /dev/hde1 > [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --misc --zero-superblock /dev/hdf1 > [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --misc --zero-superblock /dev/hdg1 > [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --misc --zero-superblock /dev/hdh1 > [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --level=5 > --raid-devices=4 --spare-devices=0 /dev/hde1 /dev/hdf1 /dev/hdg1 > /dev/hdh1 > mdadm: layout defaults to left-symmetric > mdadm: chunk size defaults to 64K > mdadm: size set to 390708736K > mdadm: array /dev/md0 started. > [root@alfred ~]# cat /proc/mdstat > Personalities : [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] > md0 : active raid5 hdh1[4] hdg1[2] hdf1[1] hde1[0] > 1172126208 blocks level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 2 [4/3] [UUU_] > > unused devices: <none> > > same as before. > > 4) did as dan suggested: > > [root@alfred ~]# mdadm -S /dev/md0 > [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --misc --zero-superblock /dev/hde1 > [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --misc --zero-superblock /dev/hdf1 > [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --misc --zero-superblock /dev/hdg1 > [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --misc --zero-superblock /dev/hdh1 > [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --create /dev/md0 -n 4 -l 5 /dev/hd[efg]1 missing > mdadm: array /dev/md0 started. > [root@alfred ~]# cat /proc/mdstat > Personalities : [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] > md0 : active raid5 hdg1[2] hdf1[1] hde1[0] > 1172126208 blocks level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 2 [4/3] [UUU_] > > unused devices: <none> > [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/hdh1 > mdadm: added /dev/hdh1 > [root@alfred ~]# cat /proc/mdstat > Personalities : [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] > md0 : active raid5 hdh1[4] hdg1[2] hdf1[1] hde1[0] > 1172126208 blocks level 5, 64k chunk, algorithm 2 [4/3] [UUU_] > [>....................] recovery = 0.0% (47984/390708736) > finish=406.9min speed=15994K/sec > > unused devices: <none> > > seems like it's working now - tnx ! This still looks odd, why should it behave like this. I have created a lot of arrays (when I was doing the RAID5 speed testing thread), and never had anything like this. I'd like to see dmesg to see if there was an error reported regarding this. I think there's more going on, the original post showed the array as up rather than some building status, also indicates some issue, perhaps. What is the partition type of each of these partitions? Perhaps there's a clue there. -- bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com> CTO TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: is this raid5 OK ? 2007-03-30 16:28 ` Bill Davidsen @ 2007-03-30 18:23 ` Rainer Fuegenstein 2007-03-30 20:58 ` Justin Piszcz 2007-03-31 0:59 ` Bill Davidsen 0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Rainer Fuegenstein @ 2007-03-30 18:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bill Davidsen; +Cc: Neil Brown, linux-raid Bill Davidsen wrote: > This still looks odd, why should it behave like this. I have created a > lot of arrays (when I was doing the RAID5 speed testing thread), and > never had anything like this. I'd like to see dmesg to see if there was > an error reported regarding this. > > I think there's more going on, the original post showed the array as up > rather than some building status, also indicates some issue, perhaps. > What is the partition type of each of these partitions? Perhaps there's > a clue there. partition type is FD (linux raid autodetect) on all disks. here's some more info: the hardware is pretty old, an 800MHz ASUS board with AMD cpu and an extra onboard promise IDE controller with two channels. the server was working well with a 60 GB hda disk (system) and a single 400 GB disk (hde) for data. kernel was 2.6.19-1.2288.fc5xen0. when I added 3 more 400 GB disks (hdf to hdh) and created the raid5, the server crashed (rebooted, freezed, ...) as soon as there was more activity on the raid (kernel panics indicating trouble with interrupts, inpage errors etc.) I then upgraded to a 400W power supply, which didn't help. I went back to two single (non-raid) 400 GB disks - same problem. finally, I figured out that the non-xen kernel works without problems. I'm filling the raid5 since several hours now and the system is still stable. I haven't tried to re-create the raid5 using the non-xen kernel, it was created using the xen kernel. maybe xen could be the problem ? I was wrong in my last post - OS is actually fedora core 5 (sorry for the typo) current state of the raid5: [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --detail --scan ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid5 num-devices=4 spares=1 UUID=e96cd8fe:c56c3438:6d9b6c14:9f0eebda [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --misc --detail /dev/md0 /dev/md0: Version : 00.90.03 Creation Time : Fri Mar 30 15:55:42 2007 Raid Level : raid5 Array Size : 1172126208 (1117.83 GiB 1200.26 GB) Device Size : 390708736 (372.61 GiB 400.09 GB) Raid Devices : 4 Total Devices : 4 Preferred Minor : 0 Persistence : Superblock is persistent Update Time : Fri Mar 30 20:22:27 2007 State : active, degraded, recovering Active Devices : 3 Working Devices : 4 Failed Devices : 0 Spare Devices : 1 Layout : left-symmetric Chunk Size : 64K Rebuild Status : 12% complete UUID : e96cd8fe:c56c3438:6d9b6c14:9f0eebda Events : 0.26067 Number Major Minor RaidDevice State 0 33 1 0 active sync /dev/hde1 1 33 65 1 active sync /dev/hdf1 2 34 1 2 active sync /dev/hdg1 4 34 65 3 spare rebuilding /dev/hdh1 here's the dmesg of the last reboot (when the raid was already created, but still syncing): Linux version 2.6.20-1.2307.fc5 (brewbuilder@hs20-bc1-6.build.redhat.com) (gcc version 4.1.1 20070105 (Red Hat 4.1.1-51)) #1 Sun Mar 18 20:44:48 EDT 2007 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: sanitize start sanitize end copy_e820_map() start: 0000000000000000 size: 000000000009f000 end: 000000000009f000 type: 1 copy_e820_map() type is E820_RAM copy_e820_map() start: 000000000009f000 size: 0000000000001000 end: 00000000000a0000 type: 2 copy_e820_map() start: 00000000000f0000 size: 0000000000010000 end: 0000000000100000 type: 2 copy_e820_map() start: 0000000000100000 size: 000000001feec000 end: 000000001ffec000 type: 1 copy_e820_map() type is E820_RAM copy_e820_map() start: 000000001ffec000 size: 0000000000003000 end: 000000001ffef000 type: 3 copy_e820_map() start: 000000001ffef000 size: 0000000000010000 end: 000000001ffff000 type: 2 copy_e820_map() start: 000000001ffff000 size: 0000000000001000 end: 0000000020000000 type: 4 copy_e820_map() start: 00000000ffff0000 size: 0000000000010000 end: 0000000100000000 type: 2 BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009f000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000000009f000 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000001ffec000 (usable) BIOS-e820: 000000001ffec000 - 000000001ffef000 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: 000000001ffef000 - 000000001ffff000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 000000001ffff000 - 0000000020000000 (ACPI NVS) BIOS-e820: 00000000ffff0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) 0MB HIGHMEM available. 511MB LOWMEM available. Using x86 segment limits to approximate NX protection Entering add_active_range(0, 0, 131052) 0 entries of 256 used Zone PFN ranges: DMA 0 -> 4096 Normal 4096 -> 131052 HighMem 131052 -> 131052 early_node_map[1] active PFN ranges 0: 0 -> 131052 On node 0 totalpages: 131052 DMA zone: 32 pages used for memmap DMA zone: 0 pages reserved DMA zone: 4064 pages, LIFO batch:0 Normal zone: 991 pages used for memmap Normal zone: 125965 pages, LIFO batch:31 HighMem zone: 0 pages used for memmap DMI 2.3 present. Using APIC driver default ACPI: RSDP (v000 ASUS ) @ 0x000f6a90 ACPI: RSDT (v001 ASUS A7V 0x30303031 MSFT 0x31313031) @ 0x1ffec000 ACPI: FADT (v001 ASUS A7V 0x30303031 MSFT 0x31313031) @ 0x1ffec080 ACPI: BOOT (v001 ASUS A7V 0x30303031 MSFT 0x31313031) @ 0x1ffec040 ACPI: DSDT (v001 ASUS A7V 0x00001000 MSFT 0x0100000b) @ 0x00000000 ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0xe408 Allocating PCI resources starting at 30000000 (gap: 20000000:dfff0000) Detected 807.219 MHz processor. Built 1 zonelists. 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ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 *12 14 15) ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (0000:00) PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00) ACPI: Assume root bridge [\_SB_.PCI0] bus is 0 0000:00:04.1: cannot adjust BAR0 (not I/O) 0000:00:04.1: cannot adjust BAR1 (not I/O) 0000:00:04.1: cannot adjust BAR2 (not I/O) 0000:00:04.1: cannot adjust BAR3 (not I/O) PCI quirk: region e400-e4ff claimed by vt82c586 ACPI PCI quirk: region e200-e27f claimed by vt82c686 HW-mon PCI quirk: region e800-e80f claimed by vt82c686 SMB Boot video device is 0000:01:00.0 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT] Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay pnp: PnP ACPI init pnp: PnP ACPI: found 13 devices usbcore: registered new interface driver usbfs usbcore: registered new interface driver hub usbcore: registered new device driver usb PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing PCI: If a device doesn't work, try "pci=routeirq". If it helps, post a report NetLabel: Initializing NetLabel: domain hash size = 128 NetLabel: protocols = UNLABELED CIPSOv4 NetLabel: unlabeled traffic allowed by default pnp: 00:03: ioport range 0xe400-0xe47f could not be reserved pnp: 00:03: ioport range 0xe800-0xe80f has been reserved PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:01.0 IO window: d000-dfff MEM window: df000000-dfdfffff PREFETCH window: dff00000-e5ffffff PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:01.0 to 64 NET: Registered protocol family 2 IP route cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes) TCP established hash table entries: 16384 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) TCP bind hash table entries: 8192 (order: 5, 163840 bytes) TCP: Hash tables configured (established 16384 bind 8192) TCP reno registered checking if image is initramfs... it is Freeing initrd memory: 958k freed Simple Boot Flag at 0x3a set to 0x1 apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x0b (Driver version 1.16ac) apm: overridden by ACPI. audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled) audit(1175274274.755:1): initialized Total HugeTLB memory allocated, 0 VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1 Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes) SELinux: Registering netfilter hooks ksign: Installing public key data Loading keyring - Added public key D81E1D1A80E5E114 - User ID: Red Hat, Inc. (Kernel Module GPG key) io scheduler noop registered io scheduler anticipatory registered io scheduler deadline registered io scheduler cfq registered (default) PCI: Disabling Via external APIC routing pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5 ACPI: CPU0 (power states: C1[C1] C2[C2]) ACPI: Processor [CPU0] (supports 16 throttling states) isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards... isapnp: No Plug & Play device found Real Time Clock Driver v1.12ac Non-volatile memory driver v1.2 Linux agpgart interface v0.101 (c) Dave Jones agpgart: Detected VIA Twister-K/KT133x/KM133 chipset agpgart: AGP aperture is 32M @ 0xe6000000 Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 4 ports, IRQ sharing enabled serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A serial8250: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A 00:0a: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A 00:0b: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 16384K size 4096 blocksize input: Macintosh mouse button emulation as /class/input/input0 Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx VP_IDE: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:04.1 VP_IDE: chipset revision 16 VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later VP_IDE: VIA vt82c686a (rev 22) IDE UDMA66 controller on pci0000:00:04.1 ide0: BM-DMA at 0xb800-0xb807, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0xb808-0xb80f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio Probing IDE interface ide0... hda: IC35L060AVVA07-0, ATA DISK drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 Probing IDE interface ide1... PDC20265: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:11.0 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 10 PCI: setting IRQ 10 as level-triggered ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:11.0[A] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10 PDC20265: chipset revision 2 PDC20265: ROM enabled at 0x30020000 PDC20265: 100% native mode on irq 10 PDC20265: (U)DMA Burst Bit ENABLED Primary PCI Mode Secondary PCI Mode. ide2: BM-DMA at 0x7800-0x7807, BIOS settings: hde:pio, hdf:pio ide3: BM-DMA at 0x7808-0x780f, BIOS settings: hdg:pio, hdh:pio Probing IDE interface ide2... hde: ST3400832A, ATA DISK drive hdf: ST3400620A, ATA DISK drive ide2 at 0x9000-0x9007,0x8802 on irq 10 Probing IDE interface ide3... hdg: ST3400620A, ATA DISK drive hdh: ST3400620A, ATA DISK drive ide3 at 0x8400-0x8407,0x8002 on irq 10 Probing IDE interface ide1... hda: max request size: 128KiB hda: 120103200 sectors (61492 MB) w/1863KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63, UDMA(33) hda: cache flushes supported hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hde: max request size: 128KiB hde: 781422768 sectors (400088 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=48641/255/63, UDMA(100) hde: cache flushes supported hde: hde1 hdf: max request size: 128KiB hdf: 781422768 sectors (400088 MB) w/16384KiB Cache, CHS=48641/255/63, UDMA(100) hdf: cache flushes supported hdf: hdf1 hdg: max request size: 128KiB hdg: 781422768 sectors (400088 MB) w/16384KiB Cache, CHS=48641/255/63, UDMA(100) hdg: cache flushes supported hdg: hdg1 hdh: max request size: 128KiB hdh: 781422768 sectors (400088 MB) w/16384KiB Cache, CHS=48641/255/63, UDMA(100) hdh: cache flushes supported hdh: hdh1 ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide usbcore: registered new interface driver libusual usbcore: registered new interface driver hiddev usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB HID core driver PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:PS2K] at 0x60,0x64 irq 1 PNP: PS/2 controller doesn't have AUX irq; using default 12 serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1 mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /class/input/input1 TCP bic registered Initializing XFRM netlink socket NET: Registered protocol family 1 NET: Registered protocol family 17 powernow-k8: Processor cpuid 631 not supported Using IPI Shortcut mode ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S3 S4 S5) Time: tsc clocksource has been installed. Freeing unused kernel memory: 232k freed Write protecting the kernel read-only data: 585k Time: acpi_pm clocksource has been installed. device-mapper: ioctl: 4.11.0-ioctl (2006-10-12) initialised: dm-devel@redhat.com kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. SELinux: Disabled at runtime. SELinux: Unregistering netfilter hooks audit(1175274281.550:2): selinux=0 auid=4294967295 input: PC Speaker as /class/input/input2 ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0b.0[A] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10 3c59x: Donald Becker and others. www.scyld.com/network/vortex.html 0000:00:0b.0: 3Com PCI 3c905C Tornado at e0838000. parport_pc: VIA 686A/8231 detected parport_pc: probing current configuration parport_pc: Current parallel port base: 0x378 parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7 [PCSPP,TRISTATE] parport_pc: VIA parallel port: io=0x378, irq=7 i2c_adapter i2c-9191: sensors disabled - enable with force_addr=0xe200 USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v3.0 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] enabled at IRQ 12 PCI: setting IRQ 12 as level-triggered ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:04.2[D] -> Link [LNKD] -> GSI 12 (level, low) -> IRQ 12 uhci_hcd 0000:00:04.2: UHCI Host Controller uhci_hcd 0000:00:04.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 uhci_hcd 0000:00:04.2: irq 12, io base 0x0000b400 usb usb1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-0:1.0: 2 ports detected ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:04.3[D] -> Link [LNKD] -> GSI 12 (level, low) -> IRQ 12 uhci_hcd 0000:00:04.3: UHCI Host Controller uhci_hcd 0000:00:04.3: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 uhci_hcd 0000:00:04.3: irq 12, io base 0x0000b000 usb usb2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 2-0:1.0: 2 ports detected usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice hub 2-2:1.0: USB hub found hub 2-2:1.0: 4 ports detected floppy0: no floppy controllers found lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven). lp0: console ready input: Power Button (FF) as /class/input/input3 ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF] input: Power Button (CM) as /class/input/input4 ACPI: Power Button (CM) [PWRB] No dock devices found. ibm_acpi: ec object not found md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: autorun ... md: considering hdh1 ... md: adding hdh1 ... md: adding hdg1 ... md: adding hdf1 ... md: adding hde1 ... md: created md0 md: bind<hde1> md: bind<hdf1> md: bind<hdg1> md: bind<hdh1> md: running: <hdh1><hdg1><hdf1><hde1> raid5: measuring checksumming speed 8regs : 1220.000 MB/sec 8regs_prefetch: 1024.000 MB/sec 32regs : 752.000 MB/sec 32regs_prefetch: 716.000 MB/sec pII_mmx : 2184.000 MB/sec p5_mmx : 2908.000 MB/sec raid5: using function: p5_mmx (2908.000 MB/sec) raid6: int32x1 285 MB/s raid6: int32x2 320 MB/s raid6: int32x4 281 MB/s raid6: int32x8 273 MB/s raid6: mmxx1 656 MB/s raid6: mmxx2 1039 MB/s raid6: sse1x1 601 MB/s raid6: sse1x2 910 MB/s raid6: using algorithm sse1x2 (910 MB/s) md: raid6 personality registered for level 6 md: raid5 personality registered for level 5 md: raid4 personality registered for level 4 raid5: device hdg1 operational as raid disk 2 raid5: device hdf1 operational as raid disk 1 raid5: device hde1 operational as raid disk 0 raid5: allocated 4207kB for md0 raid5: raid level 5 set md0 active with 3 out of 4 devices, algorithm 2 RAID5 conf printout: --- rd:4 wd:3 disk 0, o:1, dev:hde1 disk 1, o:1, dev:hdf1 disk 2, o:1, dev:hdg1 md: ... autorun DONE. RAID5 conf printout: --- rd:4 wd:3 disk 0, o:1, dev:hde1 disk 1, o:1, dev:hdf1 disk 2, o:1, dev:hdg1 disk 3, o:1, dev:hdh1 md: recovery of RAID array md0 md: minimum _guaranteed_ speed: 1000 KB/sec/disk. md: using maximum available idle IO bandwidth (but not more than 200000 KB/sec) for recovery. md: using 128k window, over a total of 390708736 blocks. loop: loaded (max 8 devices) EXT3 FS on hda1, internal journal SGI XFS with ACLs, security attributes, large block numbers, no debug enabled SGI XFS Quota Management subsystem Filesystem "md0": Disabling barriers, not supported by the underlying device XFS mounting filesystem md0 Ending clean XFS mount for filesystem: md0 kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3 FS on dm-3, internal journal EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3 FS on dm-1, internal journal EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Adding 500464k swap on /dev/hda2. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:500464k eth0: setting full-duplex. NET: Registered protocol family 10 lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions Mobile IPv6 eth0: no IPv6 routers present ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: is this raid5 OK ? 2007-03-30 18:23 ` Rainer Fuegenstein @ 2007-03-30 20:58 ` Justin Piszcz 2007-03-31 1:00 ` Bill Davidsen 2007-03-31 0:59 ` Bill Davidsen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Justin Piszcz @ 2007-03-30 20:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rainer Fuegenstein; +Cc: Bill Davidsen, Neil Brown, linux-raid On Fri, 30 Mar 2007, Rainer Fuegenstein wrote: > Bill Davidsen wrote: > >> This still looks odd, why should it behave like this. I have created a lot >> of arrays (when I was doing the RAID5 speed testing thread), and never had >> anything like this. I'd like to see dmesg to see if there was an error >> reported regarding this. >> >> I think there's more going on, the original post showed the array as up >> rather than some building status, also indicates some issue, perhaps. What >> is the partition type of each of these partitions? Perhaps there's a clue >> there. > > partition type is FD (linux raid autodetect) on all disks. > > here's some more info: > the hardware is pretty old, an 800MHz ASUS board with AMD cpu and an extra > onboard promise IDE controller with two channels. the server was working well > with a 60 GB hda disk (system) and a single 400 GB disk (hde) for data. > kernel was 2.6.19-1.2288.fc5xen0. > > when I added 3 more 400 GB disks (hdf to hdh) and created the raid5, the > server crashed (rebooted, freezed, ...) as soon as there was more activity on > the raid (kernel panics indicating trouble with interrupts, inpage errors > etc.) I then upgraded to a 400W power supply, which didn't help. I went back > to two single (non-raid) 400 GB disks - same problem. > > finally, I figured out that the non-xen kernel works without problems. I'm > filling the raid5 since several hours now and the system is still stable. > > I haven't tried to re-create the raid5 using the non-xen kernel, it was > created using the xen kernel. maybe xen could be the problem ? > > I was wrong in my last post - OS is actually fedora core 5 (sorry for the > typo) > > PCI: Disabling Via external APIC routing I will note there is the ominous '400GB' lockup bug with certain promise controllers. With the Promise ATA/133 controllers in some configurations you will get a DRQ/lockup no matter what, replacing with an ATA/100 card and no issues. But I see you have a 20265 with is an ATA/100 promise/chipset. Just out of curiosity have you tried writing or running badblocks on each parition simultaenously, this would simulate (somewhat) the I/O sent/received to the drives during a RAID5 rebuild. Justin. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: is this raid5 OK ? 2007-03-30 20:58 ` Justin Piszcz @ 2007-03-31 1:00 ` Bill Davidsen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Bill Davidsen @ 2007-03-31 1:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Justin Piszcz; +Cc: Rainer Fuegenstein, Neil Brown, linux-raid Justin Piszcz wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Mar 2007, Rainer Fuegenstein wrote: > >> Bill Davidsen wrote: >> >>> This still looks odd, why should it behave like this. I have created >>> a lot of arrays (when I was doing the RAID5 speed testing thread), >>> and never had anything like this. I'd like to see dmesg to see if >>> there was an error reported regarding this. >>> >>> I think there's more going on, the original post showed the array as >>> up rather than some building status, also indicates some issue, >>> perhaps. What is the partition type of each of these partitions? >>> Perhaps there's a clue there. >> >> partition type is FD (linux raid autodetect) on all disks. >> >> here's some more info: >> the hardware is pretty old, an 800MHz ASUS board with AMD cpu and an >> extra onboard promise IDE controller with two channels. the server >> was working well with a 60 GB hda disk (system) and a single 400 GB >> disk (hde) for data. kernel was 2.6.19-1.2288.fc5xen0. >> >> when I added 3 more 400 GB disks (hdf to hdh) and created the raid5, >> the server crashed (rebooted, freezed, ...) as soon as there was more >> activity on the raid (kernel panics indicating trouble with >> interrupts, inpage errors etc.) I then upgraded to a 400W power >> supply, which didn't help. I went back to two single (non-raid) 400 >> GB disks - same problem. >> >> finally, I figured out that the non-xen kernel works without >> problems. I'm filling the raid5 since several hours now and the >> system is still stable. >> >> I haven't tried to re-create the raid5 using the non-xen kernel, it >> was created using the xen kernel. maybe xen could be the problem ? >> >> I was wrong in my last post - OS is actually fedora core 5 (sorry >> for the typo) >> >> PCI: Disabling Via external APIC routing > > I will note there is the ominous '400GB' lockup bug with certain promise > controllers. > > With the Promise ATA/133 controllers in some configurations you will get > a DRQ/lockup no matter what, replacing with an ATA/100 card and no > issues. But I see you have a 20265 with is an ATA/100 promise/chipset. > > Just out of curiosity have you tried writing or running badblocks on > each parition simultaenously, this would simulate (somewhat) the I/O > sent/received to the drives during a RAID5 rebuild. These are all things which could be related, but any clue why the non-xen kernel works? -- bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com> CTO TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: is this raid5 OK ? 2007-03-30 18:23 ` Rainer Fuegenstein 2007-03-30 20:58 ` Justin Piszcz @ 2007-03-31 0:59 ` Bill Davidsen 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Bill Davidsen @ 2007-03-31 0:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rainer Fuegenstein; +Cc: Neil Brown, linux-raid -wheneverRainer Fuegenstein wrote: > Bill Davidsen wrote: > >> This still looks odd, why should it behave like this. I have created >> a lot of arrays (when I was doing the RAID5 speed testing thread), >> and never had anything like this. I'd like to see dmesg to see if >> there was an error reported regarding this. >> >> I think there's more going on, the original post showed the array as >> up rather than some building status, also indicates some issue, >> perhaps. What is the partition type of each of these partitions? >> Perhaps there's a clue there. > > partition type is FD (linux raid autodetect) on all disks. > > here's some more info: > the hardware is pretty old, an 800MHz ASUS board with AMD cpu and an > extra onboard promise IDE controller with two channels. the server was > working well with a 60 GB hda disk (system) and a single 400 GB disk > (hde) for data. kernel was 2.6.19-1.2288.fc5xen0. > > when I added 3 more 400 GB disks (hdf to hdh) and created the raid5, > the server crashed (rebooted, freezed, ...) as soon as there was more > activity on the raid (kernel panics indicating trouble with > interrupts, inpage errors etc.) I then upgraded to a 400W power > supply, which didn't help. I went back to two single (non-raid) 400 > GB disks - same problem. > > finally, I figured out that the non-xen kernel works without problems. > I'm filling the raid5 since several hours now and the system is still > stable. > > I haven't tried to re-create the raid5 using the non-xen kernel, it > was created using the xen kernel. maybe xen could be the problem ? I think it sounds likely at this point, I have been having issues with xen FC6 kernels, so perhaps the build or testing environment has changed. However, I would round up the usual suspects, check all cables tight, check master/slave jumper settings on drives, etc. Be sure you have the appropriate cables, 80 pin where needed. Unless you need the xen kernel you might be better off without it for now. The rest of your details were complete but didn't give me a clue, sorry. > > I was wrong in my last post - OS is actually fedora core 5 (sorry for > the typo) > > current state of the raid5: > > [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --detail --scan > ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid5 num-devices=4 spares=1 > UUID=e96cd8fe:c56c3438:6d9b6c14:9f0eebda > [root@alfred ~]# mdadm --misc --detail /dev/md0 > /dev/md0: > Version : 00.90.03 > Creation Time : Fri Mar 30 15:55:42 2007 > Raid Level : raid5 > Array Size : 1172126208 (1117.83 GiB 1200.26 GB) > Device Size : 390708736 (372.61 GiB 400.09 GB) > Raid Devices : 4 > Total Devices : 4 > Preferred Minor : 0 > Persistence : Superblock is persistent > > Update Time : Fri Mar 30 20:22:27 2007 > State : active, degraded, recovering > Active Devices : 3 > Working Devices : 4 > Failed Devices : 0 > Spare Devices : 1 > > Layout : left-symmetric > Chunk Size : 64K > > Rebuild Status : 12% complete > > UUID : e96cd8fe:c56c3438:6d9b6c14:9f0eebda > Events : 0.26067 > > Number Major Minor RaidDevice State > 0 33 1 0 active sync /dev/hde1 > 1 33 65 1 active sync /dev/hdf1 > 2 34 1 2 active sync /dev/hdg1 > 4 34 65 3 spare rebuilding /dev/hdh1 > > > here's the dmesg of the last reboot (when the raid was already > created, but still syncing): [ since it told me nothing useful I deleted it ] -- bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com> CTO TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~2007-03-31 1:00 UTC | newest] Thread overview: 10+ messages (download: mbox.gz follow: Atom feed -- links below jump to the message on this page -- 2007-03-29 17:38 is this raid5 OK ? Rainer Fuegenstein 2007-03-29 22:35 ` Justin Piszcz 2007-03-30 0:22 ` Neil Brown 2007-03-30 5:51 ` Dan Williams 2007-03-30 11:43 ` Rainer Fuegenstein 2007-03-30 16:28 ` Bill Davidsen 2007-03-30 18:23 ` Rainer Fuegenstein 2007-03-30 20:58 ` Justin Piszcz 2007-03-31 1:00 ` Bill Davidsen 2007-03-31 0:59 ` Bill Davidsen
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