From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: "Raz Ben-Jehuda(caro)" <raziebe@gmail.com>
Cc: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
Linux RAID Mailing List <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: raid5 write performance
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 22:16:45 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <460F160D.9000708@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5d96567b0703311603p1c1cb0fehfff7e94df49c0b4c@mail.gmail.com>
Raz Ben-Jehuda(caro) wrote:
> On 3/31/07, Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com> wrote:
>> Raz Ben-Jehuda(caro) wrote:
>> > Please see bellow.
>> >
>> > On 8/28/06, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de> wrote:
>> >> On Sunday August 13, raziebe@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> > well ... me again
>> >> >
>> >> > Following your advice....
>> >> >
>> >> > I added a deadline for every WRITE stripe head when it is created.
>> >> > in raid5_activate_delayed i checked if deadline is expired and if
>> >> not i am
>> >> > setting the sh to prereadactive mode as .
>> >> >
>> >> > This small fix ( and in few other places in the code) reduced the
>> >> > amount of reads
>> >> > to zero with dd but with no improvement to throghput. But with
>> >> random access to
>> >> > the raid ( buffers are aligned by the stripe width and with the
>> size
>> >> > of stripe width )
>> >> > there is an improvement of at least 20 % .
>> >> >
>> >> > Problem is that a user must know what he is doing else there
>> would be
>> >> > a reduction
>> >> > in performance if deadline line it too long (say 100 ms).
>> >>
>> >> So if I understand you correctly, you are delaying write requests to
>> >> partial stripes slightly (your 'deadline') and this is sometimes
>> >> giving you a 20% improvement ?
>> >>
>> >> I'm not surprised that you could get some improvement. 20% is quite
>> >> surprising. It would be worth following through with this to make
>> >> that improvement generally available.
>> >>
>> >> As you say, picking a time in milliseconds is very error prone. We
>> >> really need to come up with something more natural.
>> >> I had hopped that the 'unplug' infrastructure would provide the right
>> >> thing, but apparently not. Maybe unplug is just being called too
>> >> often.
>> >>
>> >> I'll see if I can duplicate this myself and find out what is really
>> >> going on.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for the report.
>> >>
>> >> NeilBrown
>> >>
>> >
>> > Neil Hello. I am sorry for this interval , I was assigned abruptly to
>> > a different project.
>> >
>> > 1.
>> > I'd taken a look at the raid5 delay patch I have written a while
>> > ago. I ported it to 2.6.17 and tested it. it makes sounds of working
>> > and when used correctly it eliminates the reads penalty.
>> >
>> > 2. Benchmarks .
>> > configuration:
>> > I am testing a raid5 x 3 disks with 1MB chunk size. IOs are
>> > synchronous and non-buffered(o_direct) , 2 MB in size and always
>> > aligned to the beginning of a stripe. kernel is 2.6.17. The
>> > stripe_delay was set to 10ms.
>> >
>> > Attached is the simple_write code.
>> >
>> > command :
>> > simple_write /dev/md1 2048 0 1000
>> > simple_write raw writes (O_DIRECT) sequentially
>> > starting from offset zero 2048 kilobytes 1000 times.
>> >
>> > Benchmark Before patch
>> >
>> > sda 1848.00 8384.00 50992.00 8384 50992
>> > sdb 1995.00 12424.00 51008.00 12424 51008
>> > sdc 1698.00 8160.00 51000.00 8160 51000
>> > sdd 0.00 0.00 0.00 0 0
>> > md0 0.00 0.00 0.00 0 0
>> > md1 450.00 0.00 102400.00 0 102400
>> >
>> >
>> > Benchmark After patch
>> >
>> > sda 389.11 0.00 128530.69 0 129816
>> > sdb 381.19 0.00 129354.46 0 130648
>> > sdc 383.17 0.00 128530.69 0 129816
>> > sdd 0.00 0.00 0.00 0 0
>> > md0 0.00 0.00 0.00 0 0
>> > md1 1140.59 0.00 259548.51 0 262144
>> >
>> > As one can see , no additional reads were done. One can actually
>> > calculate the raid's utilization: n-1/n * ( single disk throughput
>> > with 1M writes ) .
>> >
>> >
>> > 3. The patch code.
>> > Kernel tested above was 2.6.17. The patch is of 2.6.20.2
>> > because I have noticed a big code differences between 17 to 20.x .
>> > This patch was not tested on 2.6.20.2 but it is essentialy the same. I
>> > have not tested (yet) degraded mode or any other non-common pathes.
>> My weekend is pretty taken, but I hope to try putting this patch against
>> 2.6.21-rc6-git1 (or whatever is current Monday), to see not only how it
>> works against the test program, but also under some actual load. By eye,
>> my data should be safe, but I think I'll test on a well backed machine
>> anyway ;-)
> Bill.
> This test program WRITES data to a raw device, it will
> destroy everything you have on the RAID.
> If you want to use a file system test unit, as mentioned
> I have one for XFS file system.
I realize how it works, I have some disks to run tests. But changing the
RAID code puts all my RAID filesystems at risk to some extent, when logs
get written, etc. When I play with low level stuff I am careful, I've
been burned...
--
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
CTO TMR Associates, Inc
Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-01 2:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-02 14:02 raid5 write performance Raz Ben-Jehuda(caro)
2006-07-02 22:35 ` Neil Brown
2006-08-13 13:19 ` Raz Ben-Jehuda(caro)
2006-08-28 4:32 ` Neil Brown
2007-03-30 21:44 ` Raz Ben-Jehuda(caro)
2007-03-31 21:28 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-31 23:03 ` Raz Ben-Jehuda(caro)
2007-04-01 2:16 ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2007-04-01 23:08 ` Dan Williams
2007-04-02 14:13 ` Raz Ben-Jehuda(caro)
[not found] ` <17950.50209.580439.607958@notabene.brown>
[not found] ` <5d96567b0704161329n5c3ca008p56df00baaa16eacb@mail.gmail.com>
2007-04-19 8:28 ` Raz Ben-Jehuda(caro)
2007-04-19 9:20 ` Neil Brown
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-11-18 14:05 Jure Pečar
2005-11-18 19:19 ` Dan Stromberg
2005-11-18 19:23 ` Mike Hardy
2005-11-19 4:40 ` Guy
2005-11-19 4:57 ` Mike Hardy
2005-11-19 5:54 ` Neil Brown
2005-11-19 11:59 ` Farkas Levente
2005-11-20 23:39 ` Neil Brown
2005-11-19 19:52 ` Carlos Carvalho
2005-11-20 19:54 ` Paul Clements
2005-11-19 5:56 ` Guy
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