From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Colin McCabe <colin.p.mccabe@gmail.com>
Cc: Tomasz Chmielewski <mangoo@wpkg.org>,
Andrew Burgess <aab@cichlid.com>,
linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: unreadable drives can be synchronized?
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 13:46:23 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46547DEF.8040403@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7296208f0705181118n32537ddck4d94bed08625b79f@mail.gmail.com>
Colin McCabe wrote:
> On 5/18/07, Tomasz Chmielewski <mangoo@wpkg.org> wrote:
>> Andrew Burgess schrieb:
>> >> Basically, B appears to be "write-only"; it will never return an
>> error on a
>> >> write, but just try to read from it, and you will be sorry.
>> >
>> > It would be interesting to see what SMART says about drive B,
>> especially
>> > the short and long self tests.
>>
>> I wouldn't rely on SMART.
>>
>> I have a broken drive, which has lots of badblocks - but SMART happily
>> claims it's fine (short/long tests are completed without errors).
>>
>
> If you haven't seen Google's hard drive study yet, you should take a
> look.
> It's at http://labs.google.com/papers/disk_failures.pdf
>
> The conclusion says that "some of the SMART parameters are
> well-correlated with higher failure probabilities," but also that "a
> large fraction of [google's] failed drives have shown no SMART error
> signals whatsoever."
Having covered that in a presentation to a user group related to SMART.
may I offer a paraphrase which may be more obvious to people who are not
native speakers of English:
High counts of some SMART parameters indicate that the drive is likely
to fail. However, most drives fail without warning.
--
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
CTO TMR Associates, Inc
Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-23 17:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-18 14:47 unreadable drives can be synchronized? Andrew Burgess
2007-05-18 15:04 ` Tomasz Chmielewski
2007-05-18 18:18 ` Colin McCabe
2007-05-23 17:46 ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2007-05-18 18:10 ` Colin McCabe
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2007-05-16 15:50 Colin McCabe
2007-05-16 17:22 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-05-16 20:09 ` Colin McCabe
2007-05-16 20:18 ` Colin McCabe
2007-05-17 0:54 ` Neil Brown
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