From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Dimitrios Apostolou Subject: Re: RAID1 and load-balancing during read Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:33:07 +0200 Message-ID: <46E6B533.2070006@gmx.net> References: <200709102229.30655.jimis@gmx.net> <20070910193530.GB2597@teal.hq.k1024.org> <200709102251.37976.jimis@gmx.net> <20070911034417.GA20596@teal.hq.k1024.org> <877imxibj2.fsf@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <877imxibj2.fsf@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> Sender: linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org To: Goswin von Brederlow Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-raid.ids Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > As I understand it the problem is the hardware. Reading a chunk of > data from a disk means that the head has to seek to the right track > and the disk has to spin to the right position. After that you can > read a full revolution of the disk worth of data sequentially. > > Now consider what happens if you read 4K per disk in stripes. The disk > seeks to the right track, spins to the right position and reads > 4k. Then it waits for 4k to rotate below the head, read 4k, waits 4k, > read 4k, waits 4k, .... That way both disks are busy without any gain. I'm not sure about that. All disks have some sort of read-ahead option. Usually this read-ahead option is configurable too. What if the read-ahead was set to 2*chunk size (for RAID1 with 2 disks). The algorithm for reading in parallel from both disks would then be: 1st disk: current_pos1= read(chunk_size) seek(current_pos1 + chunk_size) 2nd disk: seek(current_pos2+chunk_size) current_pos2= read(chunk_size) Of course if drive read-ahead works properly (which should be for small values) the seek() functions would not really cause the drive to seek. As for the example you mentioned I'm quite sure that reading 4K from a drive and then seeking 4K forward and reading again would not result in any slowdown, since most of today's IDE drives have a default read-ahead of 128KB. > > What you would need to do is read one track from one disk, the next > track from the other and so on. But how should the kernel know where > tracks start and end. That is highly device dependent and differs > between the outside and inside of the platter. The geometry values > reported by the disk is purely fictional so the CHS values are no > help. > >> OTOH, random I/O or multiple threads are being sped up by raid1. And >> people have said on the list that using the raid10 module with only two >> disks and (IIRC) in offset or far mode will give better read >> performance, albeit it reduces write performance. > > I found that near copies behave like raid1, offset copies are slower > in both reading and writing (beats me why) and far copies are slightly > faster than near copies in write and twice as fast in read. All for > sequential read/write. For random writes far copies should be slower > to write. > >> Hmmm, I think a patch is needed to md.4 in order to explain this right >> at the source of the confusion. >> >> thanks, >> iustin > > MfG > Goswin Thanks, Dimitris