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From: Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>
To: Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org,
	xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: Performance Characteristics of All Linux RAIDs (mdadm/bonnie++)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 15:22:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <483DB0EC.3090403@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0805281329450.29755@p34.internal.lan>

Justin Piszcz wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, 28 May 2008, Chris Snook wrote:
> 
>> Justin Piszcz wrote:
>>> Hardware:
>>>
>>> 1. Utilized (6) 400 gigabyte sata hard drives.
>>> 2. Everything is on PCI-e (965 chipset & a 2port sata card)
>>>
>>> Used the following 'optimizations' for all tests.
>>>
>>> # Set read-ahead.
>>> echo "Setting read-ahead to 64 MiB for /dev/md3"
>>> blockdev --setra 65536 /dev/md3
>>>
>>> # Set stripe-cache_size for RAID5.
>>> echo "Setting stripe_cache_size to 16 MiB for /dev/md3"
>>> echo 16384 > /sys/block/md3/md/stripe_cache_size
>>>
>>> # Disable NCQ on all disks.
>>> echo "Disabling NCQ on all disks..."
>>> for i in $DISKS
>>> do
>>>   echo "Disabling NCQ on $i"
>>>   echo 1 > /sys/block/"$i"/device/queue_depth
>>> done
>>
>> Given that one of the greatest benefits of NCQ/TCQ is with parity 
>> RAID, I'd be fascinated to see how enabling NCQ changes your results.  
>> Of course, you'd want to use a single SATA controller with a known 
>> good NCQ implementation, and hard drives known to not do stupid things 
>> like disable readahead when NCQ is enabled.
> Only/usually on multi-threaded jobs/tasks, yes?

Generally, yes, but there's caching and readahead at various layers in 
software that can expose the benefit on certain single-threaded 
workloads as well.

> Also, I turn off NCQ on all of my hosts that has it enabled by default 
> because
> there are many bugs that occur when NCQ is on, they are working on it in 
> the
> libata layer but IMO it is not safe at all for running SATA disks w/NCQ as
> with it on I have seen drives drop out of the array (with it off, no 
> problems).
> 

Are you using SATA drives with RAID-optimized firmware?  Most SATA 
manufacturers have variants of their drives for a few dollars more that 
have firmware that provides bounded latency for error recovery 
operations, for precisely this reason.

-- Chris

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-05-28 19:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-28  8:53 Performance Characteristics of All Linux RAIDs (mdadm/bonnie++) Justin Piszcz
2008-05-28 10:54 ` Peter Rabbitson
2008-05-28 11:05   ` Justin Piszcz
2008-05-28 15:40 ` Chris Snook
2008-05-28 17:32   ` Justin Piszcz
2008-05-28 17:53     ` Justin Piszcz
2008-05-28 19:22     ` Chris Snook [this message]
2008-05-28 19:27       ` Justin Piszcz
2008-05-29  9:57         ` Kasper Sandberg
2008-05-29 21:08           ` Justin Piszcz
2008-05-28 20:03   ` Richard Scobie
2008-05-28 20:01     ` Justin Piszcz
2008-05-28 16:34 ` Jens Bäckman
2008-05-28 16:40   ` Chris Snook
2008-05-28 16:46   ` Bryan Mesich
2008-05-28 17:33   ` Justin Piszcz
2008-05-28 18:57   ` Alan Cox
2008-05-28 23:00     ` Bill Davidsen
2008-05-29 11:22       ` Alan Cox
2008-05-30 12:22         ` Bill Davidsen
2008-05-28 19:02 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2008-05-28 19:05   ` Justin Piszcz
2008-05-28 23:09 ` Bill Davidsen
2008-05-29  6:37   ` Michal Soltys
2008-05-29  6:44 ` Holger Kiehl
2008-05-29 12:06   ` Justin Piszcz
2008-05-29 17:02   ` Justin Piszcz
2008-05-30 12:55     ` Bill Davidsen
2008-05-30 14:23       ` Keld Jørn Simonsen

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