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From: Michael Evans <mjevans1983@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-raid <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: about raid5 recovery when created
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:30:41 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4877c76c0912090030r266337afs394ecec463555258@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <389deec70912080603w47d7fda3jf021af169ac1c48c@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 6:03 AM, hank peng <pengxihan@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/12/8 Robin Hill <robin@robinhill.me.uk>:
>> On Tue Dec 08, 2009 at 09:49:48PM +0800, hank peng wrote:
>>
>>> 2009/12/8 Robin Hill <robin@robinhill.me.uk>:
>>> > On Tue Dec 08, 2009 at 09:01:23PM +0800, hank peng wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi, all:
>>> >> As we know, when a raid5 array is created, recovery will be going on
>>> >> which involves some read, one xor and one write. Since there is no
>>> >> real data in the disk at the time, besides, if I am willing to wait
>>> >> for recovery to complete and then use this raid5, how about adding
>>> >> support for a fast recovery method? Right now, what is in my mind is
>>> >> zero all disks which belong to this raid5. I think it will increase
>>> >> raid5 recovery speed when created and decrease CPU usage, since all
>>> >> zero is also XORed.
>>> >> What do raid developers think?
>>> >>
>>> > It'll decrease CPU usage but increase I/O - you're now needing to write
>>> > to all disks.  Most systems will be I/O limited rather than CPU limited,
>>> > so the current approach works better.  If you want to zero the disks
>>> > then do this before creating the array - you can then use --assume-clean
>>> > to skip the resync process.
>>> >
>>> I think --assume-clean is used mostly when doing performance test and
>>> can't be used when creating a raid5 array using new disk, because
>>> later read and write operation make assumption that all stripe is
>>> XORed. Correct me if I am wrong.
>>>
>> You're correct - that's why I said to zero all the disks first so the
>> XOR data is all correct.
>>
> I think this function is better to be implemented in kernel raid
> layer, not in user space(for example using dd command).
> In this way, we can get good performance and lower cpu usage, also, we
> can make this function be part of raid code so that it can be managed
> by mdadm
>> Cheers,
>>    Robin
>> --
>>     ___
>>    ( ' }     |       Robin Hill        <robin@robinhill.me.uk> |
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>>  // !!       |      "He fallen in de water !!"                 |
>>
>
>
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How about documenting this better?  'zeroing all underlying devices
then creating with --assume-clean' will be clean because the parity
algorithm is even (or similar to 'even parity')?
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-09  8:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-08 13:01 about raid5 recovery when created hank peng
2009-12-08 13:14 ` Robin Hill
2009-12-08 13:49   ` hank peng
2009-12-08 13:56     ` Robin Hill
2009-12-08 14:03       ` hank peng
2009-12-09  8:30         ` Michael Evans [this message]
2009-12-09 11:29           ` hank peng
2009-12-10  1:43             ` Neil Brown
2009-12-10  3:34               ` Michael Evans
2009-12-10  3:59                 ` Neil Brown
     [not found]                   ` <g3143w7eigolu0x2ziUYAxe124vaj_firegpg@mail.gmail.com>
2009-12-30  2:55                     ` Neil Brown
     [not found]           ` <389deec70912090330l73d04696v1d23dbe74423d15b@mail.gmail.com>
2009-12-09 23:29             ` Michael Evans
2009-12-08 13:52   ` hank peng

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