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From: Michael Evans <mjevans1983@gmail.com>
To: Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de>
Cc: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Guy Watkins <linux-raid@watkins-home.com>,
	Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer@gmail.com>,
	Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>,
	Linux-RAID <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: What RAID type and why?
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:40:24 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4877c76c1003071240t6814248eqd63f391bc278aee8@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877hpoqoob.fsf@frosties.localdomain>

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de> wrote:
> Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de> writes:
>
>> On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:17:44 -0500
>> "Guy Watkins" <linux-raid@watkins-home.com> wrote:
>>
>>> }
>>> } At a minimum I would build a 3-disk raid 6.  raid 6 does a lot of i/o
>>> } which may be a problem.
>>>
>>> If he only needs 3 drives I would recommend RAID1.  Can still loose 2 drives
>>> and you don't have the RAID6 I/O overhead.
>>>
>>
>> and as md/raid6 requires at least 4 drives, RAID1 is not just the best
>> solution to survive two failures on a 3-device array, it is the only solution.
>>
>> NeilBrown
>
> Except that there also is raid10 with 3 mirrors. :)
>
> MfG
>        Goswin
>
> PS: Why doesn't raid6 still not allow 3 drives for the special case of
> converting raid1 -> raid6?
>
>
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That should be obvious:

Possible stripes:

Start:
1, 1, 1;
2, 2, 2;

'raid6' overtake...
1, q, Q;
2, q, Q;

'raid6' overtake with missing;
1, (missing 2), q, Q;
3, (missing 4), q, Q;

In the first overtake case you have the requirement of generating 200%
parity, which probably won't work for the algorithm and is a silly
idea in general since it's computationally far less expensive to store
another copy of either form of data instead.

In the second you're gaining the space of a second disk at the cost of
being already degraded; why not just go for raid 5 instead?

You can overtake raid5 later with raid6 if you add more devices.
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-07 20:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-06 22:02 What RAID type and why? Mark Knecht
2010-03-06 22:33 ` Greg Freemyer
2010-03-06 23:05   ` Mark Knecht
2010-03-07  0:38     ` Keld Simonsen
2010-05-10 15:20     ` Matt Garman
2010-05-10 15:34       ` Mark Knecht
2010-03-06 23:17   ` Guy Watkins
2010-03-06 23:51     ` Mark Knecht
2010-03-08 20:05       ` Bill Davidsen
2010-03-06 23:56     ` Michael Evans
2010-03-07  2:21     ` Neil Brown
2010-03-07  8:06       ` Keld Simonsen
2010-03-07  8:10         ` Guy Watkins
2010-03-07  8:22           ` 'Keld Simonsen'
2010-03-07 10:09             ` Michael Evans
2010-03-07 12:52       ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-03-07 20:40         ` Michael Evans [this message]
2010-03-10 17:47           ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-03-11 10:44             ` Michael Evans
2010-03-06 23:03 ` Asdo

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