From: Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca>
To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Why does the md/raid subsystem does not remap bad sectors in a raid array?
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:44:32 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4928B580.5040800@shaw.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0811221859210.14817@p34.internal.lan>
Justin Piszcz wrote:
> I asked before but it was kind of clobbered in the velociraptor mess:
>
> On a colleague's box:
>
> Aug 02, 2008 12:15.30AM(0x04:0x0023): Sector repair completed: port=7,
> LBA=0x4A0387F5
>
> SMART Self-test log structure revision number 0
> Warning: ATA Specification requires self-test log structure revision
> number = 1
> Num Test_Description Status Remaining
> LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
> # 1 Extended offline Completed: read failure 90% 305
> 1241745397
>
> Even though this disk has a bad sector:
> 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 100 100 000 Old_age
> Offline - 1
>
> The controller does not drop the drive from the array when it hits an
> error, the 3ware card "takes care of it" and the user need not worry
> about it, whereas with md/raid every time it hits a bad sector, it
> breaks the raid and it goes degraded, is this correct? Will/can
> something like what 3ware does be possible in a sw-raid based
> configuration or is a HW raid card required?
Presumably all it's doing is writing that sector's contents back from
the other drive(s) in the array when the read error is detected, this is
something that software could do just as well. Drives only remap bad
sectors when they are written over, as a read failure doesn't
necessarily mean that the sector is entirely unreadable, but could be
due to environmental factors such as high temperature, vibration, etc.
Just rewriting the sector seems a bit questionable though, as if a drive
in your array is growing read errors that's not really a good thing..
>
> Justin.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-23 1:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-23 0:02 Why does the md/raid subsystem does not remap bad sectors in a raid array? Justin Piszcz
2008-11-23 0:13 ` Jon Nelson
2008-11-23 1:44 ` Robert Hancock [this message]
2008-11-23 4:34 ` Brad Campbell
2008-11-23 12:20 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-11-25 8:17 ` Luca Berra
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=4928B580.5040800@shaw.ca \
--to=hancockr@shaw.ca \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-raid@vger.kernel.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).