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From: John Robinson <john.robinson@anonymous.org.uk>
To: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer@norcrossgroup.com>,
	Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>,
	linux-raid <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dongjun Shin <djshin90@gmail.com>,
	IDE/ATA development list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: SSD data reliable vs. unreliable [Was: Re: Data Recovery from SSDs - Impact of trim?]
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:49:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <497EE6A4.7030406@anonymous.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18814.39074.194781.490676@notabene.brown>

On 27/01/2009 05:16, Neil Brown wrote:
[...]
> Probably the only practical data structure for this would be a bitmap
> similar to the current write-intent bitmap.
> 
> Is it really worth supporting this in raid5?   Are the sorts of
> devices that will benefit from 'discard' requests likely to be used
> inside an md/raid5 array I wonder....

Assuming I've understood correctly, this usage map sounds to me like a 
useful thing to have for all RAIDs. When building the array in the first 
place, the initial sync is just writing a usage map saying it's all 
empty. Filesystem writes and discards update it appropriately. Then when 
we get failing sectors reported via e.g. SMART or a scrub operation we 
know whether they're on used or unused areas so whether it's worth 
attempting recovery.

Cheers,

John.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-27 10:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]     ` <87f94c370901231526jb41ea66ta1d6a23d7631d63c@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]       ` <497A542C.1040900@redhat.com>
     [not found]         ` <7fce22690901260659u30ffd634m3fb7f75102141ee9@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]           ` <497DE35C.6090308@redhat.com>
2009-01-26 17:34             ` SSD data reliable vs. unreliable [Was: Re: Data Recovery from SSDs - Impact of trim?] Greg Freemyer
2009-01-26 17:46               ` Ric Wheeler
2009-01-26 17:47               ` James Bottomley
2009-01-27  5:16                 ` Neil Brown
2009-01-27 10:49                   ` John Robinson [this message]
2009-01-28 20:11                     ` Bill Davidsen
     [not found]                       ` <7fce22690901281556h67fb353dp879f88e6c2a76eaf@mail.gmail.com>
2009-01-29  1:49                         ` John Robinson
2009-01-27 11:23                   ` Ric Wheeler
2009-01-28 20:28                     ` Bill Davidsen
2009-01-27 14:48                   ` James Bottomley
2009-01-27 14:54                     ` Ric Wheeler
2009-01-26 17:51               ` Mark Lord
2009-01-26 18:09                 ` Greg Freemyer
2009-01-26 18:21                   ` Mark Lord
2009-01-29 14:07                     ` Dongjun Shin
2009-01-29 15:46                       ` Mark Lord
2009-01-29 16:27                         ` Greg Freemyer
2009-01-30 15:43                           ` Bill Davidsen

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