From: Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>
To: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Cc: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
device-mapper development <dm-devel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [dm-devel] REQUEST for new 'topology' metrics to be moved out of the 'queue' sysfs directory.
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:45:16 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A48B75C.5080209@panasas.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090629114121.GH23611@kernel.dk>
On 06/29/2009 02:41 PM, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 29 2009, NeilBrown wrote:
>> On Mon, June 29, 2009 8:18 pm, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jun 27 2009, Neil Brown wrote:
>>>>> There's no such thing as first or second class block devices. The fact
>>>>> that drivers using ->make_request_fn directly do not utilize the full
>>>>> scope of the queue isn't a very interesting fact, imho.
>>>> Your phrase "drivers using ->make_request_fn directly" seems to
>>>> suggest you are looking at things very differently to me.
>>>>
>>>> From my perspective, all drivers use ->make_request_fn equally.
>>>> Some set it to "__make_request", some to "md_make_request", others to
>>>> "dm_request" or "loop_make_request" etc.
>>> Neil, will you please stop these silly games. Stop trying to invent
>>> differences based on interpretations of what you read into my replies.
>>
>> We do seem to be having trouble communicating don't we :-(
>> Be assured that it is not my intention to play games, silly or otherwise.
>>
>> Maybe I should just try sending you patches. Maybe that will
>> make my meaning clearer.
>>
>> For the moment, I'm much more interested in the other question,
>> that of whether I can avoid having a 'queue' directory introduced into
>> md/dm/etc device directories in sysfs.
>
> We already talked about this, several times. My answer is that it seems
> pointless to begin with internally, and externally it just makes the API
> worse since tools then have to know which device type they are talking
> to.
>
I do however see a problem with sysfs-files that mostly work for most devices
but for some "device type" they do nothing silently. At least make these
directory/files read-only for the un-used cases (eg. dm/md). And return proper
values to indicate their un-usefulness like "-1" or "NA"
> So I still see absolutely zero point in making such a change, quite the
> opposite.
>
Just my $0.017
Boaz
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-29 12:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-25 3:58 REQUEST for new 'topology' metrics to be moved out of the 'queue' sysfs directory Neil Brown
2009-06-25 8:00 ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-06-25 11:07 ` [dm-devel] " NeilBrown
2009-06-25 11:36 ` John Robinson
2009-06-25 17:43 ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-06-25 12:17 ` berthiaume_wayne
2009-06-25 17:38 ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-06-25 17:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-25 19:34 ` Jens Axboe
2009-06-26 11:58 ` [dm-devel] " Neil Brown
2009-06-26 14:48 ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-07-07 1:47 ` [dm-devel] " Neil Brown
2009-07-07 5:29 ` Martin K. Petersen
2009-07-09 0:42 ` Neil Brown
2009-07-07 22:06 ` Bill Davidsen
2009-06-25 19:40 ` [dm-devel] " Jens Axboe
2009-06-26 12:41 ` Neil Brown
2009-06-26 12:50 ` Jens Axboe
2009-06-26 13:16 ` NeilBrown
2009-06-26 13:27 ` Jens Axboe
2009-06-26 13:41 ` NeilBrown
2009-06-26 13:49 ` Jens Axboe
2009-06-27 12:50 ` Neil Brown
2009-06-26 13:23 ` [dm-devel] " NeilBrown
2009-06-26 13:29 ` Jens Axboe
2009-06-27 12:32 ` Neil Brown
2009-06-29 10:18 ` [dm-devel] " Jens Axboe
2009-06-29 10:52 ` NeilBrown
2009-06-29 11:41 ` Jens Axboe
2009-06-29 12:45 ` Boaz Harrosh [this message]
2009-06-29 12:52 ` Jens Axboe
2009-06-29 23:09 ` Andreas Dilger
2009-07-01 0:29 ` Neil Brown
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