From: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
chris.mason@oracle.com, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
neilb@suse.de, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, plank@cs.utk.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] md: Factor out RAID6 algorithms into lib/
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 08:49:25 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A61C4D5.6020707@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1247918016.22313.138.camel@macbook.infradead.org>
On 07/18/2009 07:53 AM, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 11:49 -0400, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>
>> Ric Wheeler wrote:
>>
>>>> The bottom line is pretty much this: the cost of changing the encoding
>>>> would appear to outweigh the benefit. I'm not trying to claim the Linux
>>>> RAID-6 implementation is optimal, but it is simple and appears to be
>>>> fast enough that the math isn't the bottleneck.
>>>>
>>> Cost? Thank about how to get free grad student hours testing out things
>>> that you might or might not want to leverage on down the road :-)
>>>
>>>
>> Cost, yes, of changing an on-disk format.
>>
>
> Personally, I don't care about that -- I'm utterly uninterested in the
> legacy RAID-6 setup where it pretends to be a normal disk. I think that
> model is as fundamentally wrong as flash devices making the similar
> pretence.
>
> I'm only interested in what we can use directly within btrfs -- and
> ideally I do want something which gives me an _arbitrary_ number of
> redundant blocks, rather than limiting me to 2. But the legacy code is
> good enough for now¹.
>
> When I get round to wanting more, I was thinking of lifting something
> like http://git.infradead.org/mtd-utils.git?a=blob;f=fec.c to start
> with, and maybe hoping that someone cleverer will come up with something
> better.
>
> The less I have to deal with Galois Fields, the happier I'll be.
>
>
I think that we are generally fine with the RAID5/6 support given a
small number of drives. The fancier erasure encodings are much more
interesting when you have a large number of drives - for example, we
just ordered 4 shelves of SATA drives (15/shelf) that will be driven by
a single server. You can certainly imagine profiling a lot of
interesting variations with that many things to play with.
Ric
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-07-18 12:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-13 14:11 [PATCH 1/4] md: Factor out RAID6 algorithms into lib/ David Woodhouse
2009-07-15 19:23 ` Dan Williams
2009-07-15 20:16 ` Chris Mason
2009-07-15 22:11 ` Dan Williams
2009-07-16 17:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-07-17 14:22 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-07-17 15:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-07-17 15:35 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-07-17 15:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-07-17 15:47 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-07-17 15:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-07-17 15:58 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-07-17 18:59 ` Alex Elsayed
2009-07-17 19:02 ` Alex Elsayed
2009-07-29 18:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-07-17 19:12 ` Gregory Maxwell
2009-07-18 11:53 ` David Woodhouse
2009-07-18 12:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-07-18 18:50 ` Alex Elsayed
2009-07-18 18:52 ` Alex Elsayed
2009-07-29 18:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-07-18 12:49 ` Ric Wheeler [this message]
2009-07-18 16:26 ` Dan Williams
2009-07-18 18:42 ` David Woodhouse
2009-07-18 20:04 ` Dan Williams
2009-07-19 18:04 ` David Woodhouse
2009-07-20 5:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-07-17 15:51 ` H. Peter Anvin
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