From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: "Keld Jørn Simonsen" <keld@dkuug.dk>
Cc: Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de>,
Info@quantum-sci.net, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RAID10 Layouts
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:57:43 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A8F1857.2010305@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090821204234.GA3683@rap.rap.dk>
Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 06:43:28PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>
>> Info@quantum-sci.net writes:
>>
>>
>>> Hello list,
>>>
>>> Researching RAID10, trying to learn the most advanced system for a 2
>>> SATA drive system. Have two WD 2TB drives for a media computer, and
>>> the most important requirement is data redundancy. I realize that
>>> RAID is no substitute for backups, but this is a backup for the
>>> backups and the purpose here is data safety. The secondary goal is
>>> speed enhancement. It appears that RAID10 can give both.
>>>
>>> First question is on layout of RAID10. In studying the man pages it
>>> seems that Far mode gives 95% of the speed of RAID0, but with
>>> increased seek for writes. And that Offset retains much of this
>>> benefit while increasing efficiency of writes. What should be the
>>> preference, Far or Offset? Are they equally as robust?
>>>
>> All raid10 layouts offer the same robustness. Which layout is best for
>> you really depends on your use case. Probably the biggest factor will
>> be the average file size. My experience is that with large files the
>> far copies do not cost noticeable write speed while being twice as
>> fast reading as raid1.
>>
>
> The file system elevator makes up for the Far write head movement.
>
>
>>> How safe is the data in Far or Offset mode? If a drive fails, will
>>> a complete, usable, bootable system exist on the other drive?
>>> (These two are the only drives in the system, which is Debian
>>> Testing, Debian kernel 2.6.30-5) Need I make any special Grub
>>> settings?
>>>
>> I don't think lilo or grub1 can boot from raid10 at all with offset or
>> far copies. With near copies you are identical to a simple raid1 so
>> that would boot.
>>
>
> there is a howto on setting up a system, that can continue runnig, if one
> disk fails at
> http://linux-raid.osdl.org/index.php/Preventing_against_a_failing_disk
>
>
>>> How does this look:
>>> # mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=raid10 --layout=o2 --metadata=1.2 --chunk=64 --raid-disks=2 missing /dev/sdb1
>>>
>> On partitions it is save to use 1.1 format. Saves you 4k. Jupey.
>>
>> You should play with the chunksize though and try with and without
>> bitmap and different bitmap sizes. Bitmap costs some write performance
>> but it greatly speeds up resyncs after a crash or temporary drive
>> failure.
>>
>
> I would recommend a bigger chunk size. at least 256 kiB.
>
You really want to look at stripe-size and stride-size creating an
ext[234] filesystem on top of raid, good things to happen there.
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prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-21 21:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-21 13:27 RAID10 Layouts Info
2009-08-21 16:43 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2009-08-21 18:02 ` Info
2009-08-21 19:20 ` Help Info
2009-08-21 19:38 ` Help John Robinson
2009-08-21 20:51 ` Help Info
2009-08-22 6:14 ` Help Info
2009-08-22 9:34 ` Help NeilBrown
2009-08-22 12:56 ` Help Info
2009-08-22 16:47 ` Help John Robinson
2009-08-22 18:12 ` Help Info
2009-08-22 20:45 ` Help Info
2009-08-22 20:59 ` Help Guy Watkins
[not found] ` <200908230631.46865.Info@quantum-sci.net>
2009-08-24 23:08 ` Help Info
2009-08-24 23:38 ` Help NeilBrown
2009-08-25 13:18 ` Help Info
2009-08-27 12:47 ` Help Info
2009-08-23 20:28 ` Help John Robinson
2009-08-22 6:31 ` RAID10 Layouts Goswin von Brederlow
2009-08-21 20:42 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2009-08-21 21:04 ` Info
2009-08-21 21:57 ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
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