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From: Maurice Hilarius <maurice@harddata.com>
To: Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe <Mario.Holbe@TU-Ilmenau.DE>
Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, iusty@k1024.org
Subject: Re: mdadm and TLER (Time Limited Error Recovery)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:33:56 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AA70604.7020709@harddata.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090908184837.GA28217@teal.hq.k1024.org>

Iustin Pop wrote:
> ..
>> Anyways, clarification...
>> The only reason for TLER (Time Limited Error Recovery) is to behave
>> "friendly" toward RAID controllers that timeout disks.
>> In fact, md does not timeout disks as many Hardware RAID controllers do.
>> So, from md's point of view, TLER is useless, i.e. it has no benefit.
>>     
>
> I'm sorry but I disagree here. *Especially* because md is used over
> normal SATA controllers most of the time, TLER is beneficial because the
> drive doesn't go catatonic for minutes at a time trying to recover a bad
> sector, which would (because md doesn't timeout disks) cause md to hung
> up the whole device. TLER will allow md to see the error quickly and
> attempt to rewrite (read) or retry/fail the disk (write) for a bad the
> sector.
>
> Just my understanding of the md stack.
>
> regards,
> iustin
>
>   
I agree.
Before WD implemented this we would see cases quite often where a 
perfectly good drive would get "kicked out"
of a RAID as frequently or even more often, than on a hardware RAID.
TLER management seems to have eliminated most of these cases.



-- 
Regards, Maurice

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-09-09  1:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-08  0:35 mdadm and TLER (Time Limited Error Recovery) Tim Rutter
2009-09-08 14:17 ` Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
2009-09-08 18:48   ` Iustin Pop
2009-09-08 19:45     ` Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
2009-09-09  1:33     ` Maurice Hilarius [this message]
2009-09-09  8:21       ` Simon Jackson
2009-09-09  9:00         ` Majed B.
2009-09-09 11:04         ` Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
2009-09-10  9:26           ` Simon Jackson
2009-09-10  9:39             ` Majed B.
2009-09-10  9:46             ` Robin Hill
2009-09-15 15:36           ` Simon Jackson

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