linux-raid.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Rudy Zijlstra <rudy@grumpydevil.homelinux.org>
To: greg@enjellic.com
Cc: Neil F Brown <nfbrown@novell.com>,
	Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] mdadm-3.1 has been withdrawn
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:02:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AFC93EC.2070403@grumpydevil.homelinux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200911121751.nACHpMrQ011365@wind.enjellic.com>

greg@enjellic.com wrote:
> On Nov 10,  7:22am, "Neil F Brown" wrote:
> } Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] mdadm-3.1 has been withdrawn
>
> Good morning to everyone, hope the week is progressing well.
>
> <snip>
> It may be heresy but I would suggest that if the defaults change we
> should also implement support for auto-starting version 1.x devices,
> or some appropriate subset of them.
>
> I understand and appreciate the concerns of the userspace start
> community.  However, we do a lot of storage on very dedicated systems
> and I have spent far more time unsnarling systems with blown
> initrd/initramfs setups and other boot issues than I have recovering
> from starting RAID volumes on the wrong box.  Thats why I don't let
> udev anywhere near production machines and I am still living on 0.9
> metadata in spite of its limitations.
>
> UNIX has always been about allowing people to shoot themselves in the
> foot if they so desire.  I think an acceptable compromise would be to
> move toward a default of disabled auto-detection with the option to
> turn on detection of all meta-data types if people choose to do that.
>
>   
+1


Cheers,

Rudy

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-12 23:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <nfbrown@novell.com>
2009-11-12 17:51 ` [ANNOUNCE] mdadm-3.1 has been withdrawn greg
2009-11-12 23:02   ` Rudy Zijlstra [this message]
2009-11-13  1:53     ` Michael Evans
2009-11-13  2:02   ` Neil Brown
2009-11-06  6:45 Neil Brown
2009-11-09 14:39 ` Doug Ledford
2009-11-09 15:36   ` berk walker
2009-11-09 15:42     ` Jon Nelson
2009-11-09 16:51       ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2009-11-09 21:07         ` Doug Ledford
2009-11-09 21:27           ` Luca Berra
2009-11-09 21:43             ` Jon Nelson
2009-11-10  8:25           ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2009-11-10 14:22             ` Jon Nelson
2009-11-11  3:26               ` Michael Evans
2009-11-12 22:25           ` Bill Davidsen
2009-11-13  5:50             ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2009-11-13 13:04               ` Bill Davidsen
2009-11-09 20:22   ` Neil F Brown
2009-11-09 21:00     ` Doug Ledford
2009-11-13 23:54     ` Dan Williams
2009-11-14  3:32       ` Doug Ledford

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=4AFC93EC.2070403@grumpydevil.homelinux.org \
    --to=rudy@grumpydevil.homelinux.org \
    --cc=dledford@redhat.com \
    --cc=greg@enjellic.com \
    --cc=linux-raid@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=nfbrown@novell.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).