From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>
Cc: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [[Patch mdadm] 2/5] Move the files mdmon opens into /dev/ to support handoff after pivotroot
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2010 13:18:58 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B686C92.8000704@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B6869D2.7040506@redhat.com>
Doug Ledford wrote:
> On 02/01/2010 05:42 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
>
>
>> In other words, it's not where you put it, it's where you *didn't* put
>> it, that seems to be an
>> invitation to put stuff just anywhere. Neil argues that they are not
>> devices, I argue that
>> they are PIDs. It's not as though it were a huge effort to move it after
>> pivot root, it's a little code
>> or script and in space which will be released.
>>
>
> On the pid files I see your point. Not that it changes the problem, but
> it does at least point out that more needs to be done and that the
> current solution is incomplete.
>
>
Good, and your point about context and such is well taken. I still feel
that the way to
solve this would be to copy *just* the PID files to a real /var/run and
any directories
being created would have default permissions. It just feels as if
there's a single point
at which this could be done. And of course "if you broke it, you should
fix it." That's
a popular thing Linus said, but the principle dates back to MULTICS, at
least (70's).
--
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
"We can't solve today's problems by using the same thinking we
used in creating them." - Einstein
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-02-02 18:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-11 20:38 Minor mdadm fixes Doug Ledford
2010-01-11 20:38 ` [[Patch mdadm] 1/5] Make the IMSM_DEVNAME_AS_SERIAL option work when creating containers. This allows a person to testing using loopback devices that don't support serial number queries Doug Ledford
2010-01-18 22:01 ` Neil Brown
2010-01-18 22:13 ` Dan Williams
2010-01-19 1:55 ` Doug Ledford
2010-01-19 4:42 ` Dan Williams
2010-01-19 5:31 ` Doug Ledford
2010-01-19 5:47 ` Dan Williams
2010-01-11 20:38 ` [[Patch mdadm] 2/5] Move the files mdmon opens into /dev/ to support handoff after pivotroot Doug Ledford
2010-01-18 22:09 ` Neil Brown
2010-01-19 7:21 ` Luca Berra
2010-01-19 17:51 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-01 20:32 ` Bill Davidsen
2010-02-01 21:32 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-01 22:42 ` Bill Davidsen
2010-02-02 4:08 ` Michael Evans
2010-02-02 7:17 ` Luca Berra
2010-02-02 15:42 ` Bill Davidsen
2010-02-02 18:19 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-04 13:50 ` Bernd Schubert
2010-02-04 15:03 ` Bernd Schubert
2010-02-04 15:48 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-04 16:40 ` Bernd Schubert
2010-02-04 17:35 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-02 18:11 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-02 18:07 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-02 18:18 ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2010-02-04 6:40 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-04 18:45 ` Doug Ledford
[not found] ` <4B6B15B3.8030205-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-04 23:04 ` Dan Williams
[not found] ` <e9c3a7c21002041504w17565653m5a8b8cd90543cf1e-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-05 0:21 ` Bill Davidsen
2010-02-05 12:14 ` Luca Berra
2010-02-06 17:51 ` Doug Ledford
[not found] ` <4B6DAC06.6060909-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-06 21:07 ` Dan Williams
[not found] ` <e9c3a7c21002061307le6f5d56ked4fa3711bdd2367-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-06 21:46 ` martin f krafft
2010-02-06 22:06 ` Michael Evans
2010-02-08 15:32 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-08 21:38 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-09 0:20 ` Michael Evans
[not found] ` <20100209083838.6568cac0-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-09 2:19 ` martin f krafft
[not found] ` <20100209021949.GB11780-0owbi4v4jRjYceiJAzDLgeTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-09 20:34 ` Doug Ledford
[not found] ` <4B71C6CA.3010407-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-10 0:58 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
[not found] ` <alpine.LNX.2.01.1002091553580.10004-pIN9qAC4yfKseEBmXaVrNB5FPEiCeG3sAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-10 1:33 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-10 9:46 ` Harald Hoyer
[not found] ` <20100210123321.324e5de6-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-10 15:49 ` Dan Williams
2010-02-10 16:06 ` Michael Evans
[not found] ` <4877c76c1002100806w66e504deg767f6ecc8cc7fa8a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-11 2:30 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-09 20:30 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-08 4:23 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-07 22:13 ` Hans de Goede
2010-02-07 23:06 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-08 3:45 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-08 16:56 ` Bill Nottingham
2010-01-11 20:38 ` [[Patch mdadm] 3/5] We don't like %02d as a metadata format specifier, it confuses us when we read the output back later Doug Ledford
2010-01-18 22:02 ` Neil Brown
2010-01-11 20:38 ` [[Patch mdadm] 4/5] When using -D --export the UUID is helpful, so print it out Doug Ledford
2010-01-18 22:03 ` Neil Brown
2010-01-11 20:38 ` [[Patch mdadm] 5/5] Fix segfault when the AUTO keyword is used in the config file Doug Ledford
2010-01-18 22:03 ` Neil Brown
2010-01-12 0:49 ` Minor mdadm fixes Mr. James W. Laferriere
2010-01-12 3:10 ` Andre Noll
2010-01-12 3:36 ` Doug Ledford
2010-01-12 4:39 ` Andre Noll
2010-01-12 4:46 ` Doug Ledford
2010-01-12 5:21 ` Andre Noll
2010-01-18 22:05 ` Neil Brown
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