From: Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Neil Brown <neilb-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>,
Dan Williams
<dan.j.williams-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
linux-raid-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
initramfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Michal Marek <mmarek-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>,
Hans de Goede <hdegoede@red>
Subject: Re: [[Patch mdadm] 2/5] Move the files mdmon opens into /dev/ to support handoff after pivotroot
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:34:18 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B71C6CA.3010407@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100209021949.GB11780-0owbi4v4jRjYceiJAzDLgeTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
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On 02/08/2010 09:19 PM, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Neil Brown <neilb-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org> [2010.02.09.1038 +1300]:
>> I could probably actually live with "/dev/run" as the permanent
>> home for the mdmon files: /dev/run/mdmon/*.{sock,pid} It
>> addresses most of the issues I had with the original suggestion
>> (hidden files, non-generic approach) so the "cons" are weaker.
>> And I now understand the "pros" better (races with cleaning
>> /var/run, issues with unmounting /var etc).
>
> Note that initramfs already carries /dev across the pivot_root, and
> initramfs already uses /dev/.initramfs to carry stuff across.
And the things carried in there should be able to be trivially moved to
a final location.
> I am not sure /dev/run will fly past the Debian Police. On the other
> hand, it would be convenient, since it'll work out-of-the-box, at
> least on Debian systems. I don't really like the idea of a symlink
> in / though. Nor do I really have a better idea.
Persuant to the comments that this should work even if /dev is not
read/write, it really needs to officially be a top level directory (or
else some other mount point that is separate from /dev I think, I guess
it could be in /tmp itself).
>> Anyone second the motion?
>
> I am all for finding a solution that works, but I don't think it's
> as easy as "the standards are slow, so let's just forge ahead with
> mdadm only and give them something to standardise".
>
> I wouldn't mind avoiding all the bikeshedding, and maybe it'll just
> work, but having to change things later might possibly be a lot of
> trouble — after all, we don't want to break people's systems then.
I don't think so. Once it's all set up, any future change should be no
more than a coordinate package update cycle where initscripts, mkinitrd,
dracut, and a few other select packages that use the locations are all
updated simultaneously.
> On the other hand, this is something that is reinitialised on every
> boot, isn't it? If that's the case and there don't seem to be
> complications with a later move, then I say: yeah, let's go ahead.
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-02-09 20:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-11 20:38 Minor mdadm fixes Doug Ledford
2010-01-11 20:38 ` [[Patch mdadm] 1/5] Make the IMSM_DEVNAME_AS_SERIAL option work when creating containers. This allows a person to testing using loopback devices that don't support serial number queries Doug Ledford
2010-01-18 22:01 ` Neil Brown
2010-01-18 22:13 ` Dan Williams
2010-01-19 1:55 ` Doug Ledford
2010-01-19 4:42 ` Dan Williams
2010-01-19 5:31 ` Doug Ledford
2010-01-19 5:47 ` Dan Williams
2010-01-11 20:38 ` [[Patch mdadm] 2/5] Move the files mdmon opens into /dev/ to support handoff after pivotroot Doug Ledford
2010-01-18 22:09 ` Neil Brown
2010-01-19 7:21 ` Luca Berra
2010-01-19 17:51 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-01 20:32 ` Bill Davidsen
2010-02-01 21:32 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-01 22:42 ` Bill Davidsen
2010-02-02 4:08 ` Michael Evans
2010-02-02 7:17 ` Luca Berra
2010-02-02 15:42 ` Bill Davidsen
2010-02-02 18:19 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-04 13:50 ` Bernd Schubert
2010-02-04 15:03 ` Bernd Schubert
2010-02-04 15:48 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-04 16:40 ` Bernd Schubert
2010-02-04 17:35 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-02 18:11 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-02 18:07 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-02 18:18 ` Bill Davidsen
2010-02-04 6:40 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-04 18:45 ` Doug Ledford
[not found] ` <4B6B15B3.8030205-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-04 23:04 ` Dan Williams
[not found] ` <e9c3a7c21002041504w17565653m5a8b8cd90543cf1e-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-05 0:21 ` Bill Davidsen
2010-02-05 12:14 ` Luca Berra
2010-02-06 17:51 ` Doug Ledford
[not found] ` <4B6DAC06.6060909-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-06 21:07 ` Dan Williams
[not found] ` <e9c3a7c21002061307le6f5d56ked4fa3711bdd2367-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-06 21:46 ` martin f krafft
2010-02-06 22:06 ` Michael Evans
2010-02-08 15:32 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-08 21:38 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-09 0:20 ` Michael Evans
[not found] ` <20100209083838.6568cac0-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-09 2:19 ` martin f krafft
[not found] ` <20100209021949.GB11780-0owbi4v4jRjYceiJAzDLgeTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-09 20:34 ` Doug Ledford [this message]
[not found] ` <4B71C6CA.3010407-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-10 0:58 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
[not found] ` <alpine.LNX.2.01.1002091553580.10004-pIN9qAC4yfKseEBmXaVrNB5FPEiCeG3sAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-10 1:33 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-10 9:46 ` Harald Hoyer
[not found] ` <20100210123321.324e5de6-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-10 15:49 ` Dan Williams
2010-02-10 16:06 ` Michael Evans
[not found] ` <4877c76c1002100806w66e504deg767f6ecc8cc7fa8a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-11 2:30 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-09 20:30 ` Doug Ledford
2010-02-08 4:23 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-07 22:13 ` Hans de Goede
2010-02-07 23:06 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-08 3:45 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-08 16:56 ` Bill Nottingham
2010-01-11 20:38 ` [[Patch mdadm] 3/5] We don't like %02d as a metadata format specifier, it confuses us when we read the output back later Doug Ledford
2010-01-18 22:02 ` Neil Brown
2010-01-11 20:38 ` [[Patch mdadm] 4/5] When using -D --export the UUID is helpful, so print it out Doug Ledford
2010-01-18 22:03 ` Neil Brown
2010-01-11 20:38 ` [[Patch mdadm] 5/5] Fix segfault when the AUTO keyword is used in the config file Doug Ledford
2010-01-18 22:03 ` Neil Brown
2010-01-12 0:49 ` Minor mdadm fixes Mr. James W. Laferriere
2010-01-12 3:10 ` Andre Noll
2010-01-12 3:36 ` Doug Ledford
2010-01-12 4:39 ` Andre Noll
2010-01-12 4:46 ` Doug Ledford
2010-01-12 5:21 ` Andre Noll
2010-01-18 22:05 ` Neil Brown
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