From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: John Robinson Subject: Re: Linux mdadm superblock question. Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:28:29 +0000 Message-ID: <4B7AAB8D.9030009@anonymous.org.uk> References: <201002140251.59668.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> <201002141940.35716.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> <4B7846B2.1030303@anonymous.org.uk> <201002142013.24922.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <201002142013.24922.volkerarmin@googlemail.com> Sender: linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org To: Volker Armin Hemmann Cc: Linux RAID List-Id: linux-raid.ids On 14/02/2010 19:13, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, you wrote: >> On 14/02/2010 18:40, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>> On Sonntag 14 Februar 2010, you wrote: >>>> In other words, 'auto-detection' for 1.x format devices is using an >>>> initrd/initramfs. >>> which makes 1.x format useless for everybody who does not want to deal >>> with initrd/initramfs. >> True, but afaik every distro uses an initrd/initramfs and bundles tools >> making it easy to manage and customise them, so what's the problem? > > and distros do it because of all the drivers they have to ship. But for > example I am not bound by such limitations. Why should I deal with that? > It is hard enough not to forget 'make modules_install'. And now add initrd. > Autodetecting just works - but if you use an initrd an it doesn't. Where do > you start? > > Initrd's maybe great for distro packagers, but are they really usefull for > anybody else? Not just for distro packagers, they're useful for distro users, which are presumably 99% of Linux users these days, including the vast majority of enterprise users who like tested, supported systems. But even for people building their own kernels, initrd/initramfs are useful if you're using LVM, or indeed trying to boot off anything that's not a simple device. Cheers, John.