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From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: "Mr. James W. Laferriere" <babydr@baby-dragons.com>
Cc: Robin Hill <robin@robinhill.me.uk>, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux mdadm superblock question.
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:42:38 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B7ACAFE.9090606@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.01.1002121247280.3504@filesrv1.baby-dragons.com>

Mr. James W. Laferriere wrote:
>  Hello Robin ,
>
>  On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Robin Hill wrote:
> > On Thu Feb 11, 2010 at 05:52:41PM -0800, Michael Evans wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Justin Piszcz
> >> <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com> wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I may be converting a host to ext4 and was curious, is 0.90
> >>> still the only superblock version for mdadm/raid-1 that you can
> >>> boot from without having to create an initrd/etc?
> >>>
> >>> Are there any benefits to using a superblock > 0.90 for a
> >>> raid-1 boot volume < 2TB?
> >>>
> >>> Justin.
> >>
> >> You need the superblock at the end of the partition:  If you read
> >> the manual that is clearly either version 0.90 OR 1.0 (NOT 1.1
> >> and also NOT 1.2; those use the same superblock layout but
> >> different locations).
> >>
> > You also need it to be auto-assembled by the kernel, which is only
> > version 0.90.
> >
> > As for benefits, there's a number of benefits of 1.x over 0.90 - I
> > don't think any of them are terribly important for a small boot
> > partition though.  There's also benefits to having an initrd
> > anyway.
> >
> > Cheers, Robin
>
>  One can use the 'append=""' functionality of lilo & I am user that
>  Grub2(and family) has some method of doing the same . ie: append="
>  md=1,/dev/sda1,/dev/sdb1,/dev/sdc1,/dev/sdd1
>  md=2,/dev/sda2,/dev/sdb2,/dev/sdc2,/dev/sdd2 md=3,/dev/sda3,/dev/sdb3
>  md=4,/dev/sda4,/dev/sdb4 vt.default_utf8=0 sysrq_always_enabled=1"
>
You *really* don't want to do that, you want to let mdadm find the 
arrays and use UUID to associate array with mount point. Any minor issue 
with the hardware will cause this whole structure to fail.

>  Not sure if this would be usable with a 1.1+ version of the MD
>  headers .

I'm not sure it's usable at all. Not that it doesn't work in a perfect 
world, we just don't live there. This method is fragile.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
  "We can't solve today's problems by using the same thinking we
   used in creating them." - Einstein


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-02-16 16:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-11 23:00 Linux mdadm superblock question Justin Piszcz
2010-02-12  1:52 ` Michael Evans
2010-02-12  9:06   ` Robin Hill
2010-02-12 21:53     ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2010-02-16  0:57       ` Neil Brown
2010-02-16 16:42       ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2010-02-13 19:58   ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-13 20:07     ` Justin Piszcz
2010-02-13 20:49       ` david
2010-02-13 21:07         ` Michael Evans
2010-02-13 21:29       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-14 20:25         ` Asdo
2010-02-14 21:18           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-14 21:34             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2010-02-14 23:20             ` Rudy Zijlstra
2010-02-15  3:40               ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2010-02-15  7:12                 ` Luca Berra
2010-02-16  0:38                   ` Neil Brown
2010-02-16  0:27     ` Neil Brown
2010-02-16  1:24       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-16  3:18         ` david
2010-02-16  4:42           ` John Robinson
2010-02-16  7:02           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-16  8:46             ` Rudy Zijlstra
2010-02-16 17:05         ` Bill Davidsen
2010-02-16 23:30           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-16 10:12       ` Giovanni Tessore
2010-02-17 23:10         ` Neil Brown
2010-02-16  3:40   ` CaT
2010-02-13  6:42 ` martin f krafft
2010-02-13  8:37 ` Giovanni Tessore
2010-02-13  9:26   ` Michael Evans
2010-02-13  9:35     ` Giovanni Tessore
2010-02-13  9:40       ` Michael Evans
2010-02-13 10:06         ` Giovanni Tessore
2010-02-16  0:50 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-16 13:14   ` Justin Piszcz
2010-02-16 20:09     ` mdadm FAQ (was: Linux mdadm superblock question.) martin f krafft
2010-02-17 23:11     ` Linux mdadm superblock question Neil Brown
2010-02-16 17:24   ` Bill Davidsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-02-14  1:51 Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-14  4:02 ` Michael Evans
2010-02-14  7:21   ` david
2010-02-14  8:38     ` Michael Evans
2010-02-14 18:40   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-14 18:53     ` John Robinson
2010-02-14 21:16       ` Gabor Gombas
     [not found]       ` <201002142013.24922.volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
2010-02-16 14:28         ` John Robinson
2010-02-16 14:37           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-16 14:46             ` Robin Hill
2010-02-16 17:23             ` John Robinson
2010-02-16 19:38             ` Luca Berra
2010-02-16 17:18     ` Bill Davidsen
2010-02-16 21:06       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-16 22:00         ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-16 22:18           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-17 14:25             ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-18  9:27             ` Ian Dall
2010-02-17  1:03       ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2010-02-17  2:01         ` Neil Brown
2010-02-17  2:38           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-17 23:15             ` Neil Brown
2010-02-17  6:34           ` Kyle Moffett
2010-02-17  9:38             ` Rudy Zijlstra
2010-02-17 13:26               ` Frans Pop
2010-02-17 20:54                 ` Gabor Gombas
2010-02-17 21:29                   ` Frans Pop
2010-02-18  3:40                   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-02-17 16:22               ` Kyle Moffett
2010-02-17 17:41                 ` david
2010-02-17 18:10                   ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-17 18:27                     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-17 18:37                       ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-17 18:41                         ` david
2010-02-17 18:51                           ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-17 21:17                             ` david
2010-02-17 21:37                               ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-17 22:21                                 ` david
2010-02-17 18:46                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-17 22:26                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-18  3:33                     ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-02-18  7:51                       ` Luca Berra
2010-02-18 14:12                       ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-19  9:04                         ` Michael Evans
2010-02-14 19:34   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2010-02-14 20:07     ` Michael Evans
2010-02-14 21:14       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2010-02-14 20:47     ` Asdo
2010-02-14 21:26       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2010-02-14 21:28       ` Gabor Gombas
2010-02-15  9:08         ` martin f krafft
2010-02-15  7:51 ` Luca Berra
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2010-02-16 21:10       ` Bodo Eggert

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