From: Stan Hoeppner <stan@hardwarefreak.com>
To: "Keld Jørn Simonsen" <keld@keldix.com>
Cc: "Jon Nelson" <jnelson-linux-raid@jamponi.net>,
"Mathias Burén" <mathias.buren@gmail.com>,
"Roberto Spadim" <roberto@spadim.com.br>,
Denis <denismpa@gmail.com>,
Linux-RAID <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: What's the typical RAID10 setup?
Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 02:27:38 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D4BB87A.30800@hardwarefreak.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110204070613.GA3788@www2.open-std.org>
Keld Jørn Simonsen put forth on 2/4/2011 1:06 AM:
> Well RAID1+0 is not the best combination available. I would argue that
> raid10,f2 is significantly better in a number of areas.
I'd guess Linux software RAID would be lucky to have 1% of RAID deployments
worldwide--very lucky. The other 99%+ are HBA RAID or SAN/NAS "appliances" most
often using custom embedded RTOS with the RAID code written in assembler,
especially in the case of the HBAs. For everything not Linux mdraid, RAID 10
(aka 1+0) is king of the hill, and has been for 15 years+
>> Something smells bad here. Does one of the RAID companies own a patent or
>> trademark on "RAID 10"? I'll look into this. It just doesn't make any sense
>> for RAID 10 to be omitted from the SNIA DDF but to be referenced in the manner
>> it is.
>
> It looks like they do define all major basic RAID disk layouts. (except
> raid10,f2 of cause) . RAID1+0 is a derived format, maybe that is out of
> scope of the DDF standard.
"A secondary virtual disk is a VD configured using hybrid RAID levels like
RAID10 or RAID50. Its elements are BVDs."
So apparently their Disk Data Format specification doesn't include hybrid RAID
levels. This makes sense, as the _on disk_ layout of RAID 10 is identical to
RAID 1.
We apparently need to be looking for other SNIA documents to find their
definition of RAID 10. That is what started us down this tunnel isn't it?
We're so deep now there's no light and I can't see the path behind me anymore. ;)
--
Stan
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-02-04 8:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-31 9:41 What's the typical RAID10 setup? Mathias Burén
2011-01-31 10:14 ` Robin Hill
2011-01-31 10:22 ` Mathias Burén
2011-01-31 10:36 ` CoolCold
2011-01-31 15:00 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 15:21 ` Robin Hill
2011-01-31 15:27 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 15:28 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 15:32 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 15:34 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 15:37 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 15:45 ` Robin Hill
2011-01-31 16:55 ` Denis
2011-01-31 17:31 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 18:35 ` Denis
2011-01-31 19:15 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 19:28 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-01-31 19:35 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 19:37 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 20:22 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-01-31 20:17 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-01-31 20:37 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-01-31 21:20 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 21:24 ` Mathias Burén
2011-01-31 21:27 ` Jon Nelson
2011-01-31 21:47 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 21:51 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 22:50 ` NeilBrown
2011-01-31 22:53 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 23:10 ` NeilBrown
2011-01-31 23:14 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 22:52 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-01-31 23:00 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 10:01 ` David Brown
2011-02-01 13:50 ` Jon Nelson
2011-02-01 14:25 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 14:48 ` David Brown
2011-02-01 15:41 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 3:36 ` Drew
2011-02-03 8:18 ` Stan Hoeppner
[not found] ` <AANLkTikerSZfhMbkEvGBVyLB=wHDSHLWszoEz5As5Hi4@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <AANLkTikLyR206x4aMy+veNkWPV67uF9r5dZKGqXJUEqN@mail.gmail.com>
2011-02-03 14:35 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 15:43 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-03 15:50 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 15:54 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 16:02 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-03 16:07 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 16:16 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 22:05 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-01 23:12 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-02 9:25 ` Robin Hill
2011-02-02 16:00 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-02 16:06 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-02 16:07 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-02 16:10 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-02 16:13 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-02 19:44 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-02 20:28 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-02 21:31 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-02 22:13 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-02 22:26 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 1:57 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 3:05 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-03 3:13 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 3:17 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 23:35 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-01 16:02 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-01 16:24 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 17:56 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-01 18:09 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 20:16 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-01 20:32 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-01 20:58 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 21:04 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 21:18 ` David Brown
2011-02-01 0:58 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-01 12:50 ` Roman Mamedov
2011-02-03 11:04 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-03 14:17 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 15:54 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-03 18:39 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-03 18:41 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-03 23:43 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-04 3:49 ` hansbkk
2011-02-04 7:06 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-04 8:27 ` Stan Hoeppner [this message]
2011-02-04 9:06 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-04 10:04 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-04 11:15 ` hansbkk
2011-02-04 13:33 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-04 20:35 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-04 20:42 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-04 21:15 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-04 22:05 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-04 23:03 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-06 3:59 ` Drew
2011-02-06 4:27 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-04 11:34 ` David Brown
2011-02-04 13:53 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-04 14:17 ` David Brown
2011-02-04 14:21 ` hansbkk
2011-02-06 4:02 ` Drew
2011-02-06 7:58 ` Keld Jørn Simonsen
2011-02-06 12:03 ` Roman Mamedov
2011-02-06 14:30 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-01 8:46 ` hansbkk
2011-01-31 19:37 ` Phillip Susi
2011-01-31 19:41 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 19:46 ` Phillip Susi
2011-01-31 19:53 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 22:10 ` Phillip Susi
2011-01-31 22:14 ` Denis
2011-01-31 22:33 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 22:36 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 20:23 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-01-31 21:59 ` Phillip Susi
2011-01-31 22:08 ` Jon Nelson
2011-01-31 22:38 ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-01 10:05 ` David Brown
2011-02-01 9:20 ` Robin Hill
2011-02-04 16:03 ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-04 16:22 ` Robin Hill
2011-02-04 20:35 ` [OT] " Phil Turmel
2011-02-04 20:35 ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-04 21:05 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-04 21:13 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-01-31 15:30 ` Robin Hill
2011-01-31 20:07 ` Stan Hoeppner
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