From: Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>
To: "Eric D. Mudama" <edmudama@bounceswoosh.org>
Cc: "Scott E. Armitage" <launchpad@scott.armitage.name>,
Roberto Spadim <roberto@spadim.com.br>,
David Brown <david@westcontrol.com>,
linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: SSD - TRIM command
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 13:24:20 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D62ADD4.8080601@cfl.rr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110209161916.GB8632@bounceswoosh.org>
On 2/9/2011 11:19 AM, Eric D. Mudama wrote:
> For SATA devices, ATA8-ACS2 addresses this through Deterministic Read
> After Trim in the DATA SET MANAGEMENT command. Devices can be
> indeterminate, determinate with a non-zero pattern (often all-ones) or
> determinate all-zero for sectors read after being trimmed.
IIRC, it was a word in the IDENTIFY response, not the DATA SET
MANAGEMENT command.
On 2/9/2011 11:28 AM, Scott E. Armitage wrote:
> Who sends this command? If md can assume that determinate mode is
> always set, then RAID 1 at least would remain consistent. For RAID 5,
> consistency of the parity information depends on the determinate
> pattern used and the number of disks. If you used determinate
> all-zero, then parity information would always be consistent, but this
> is probably not preferable since every TRIM command would incur an
> extra write for each bit in each page of the block.
The drive tells YOU how its trim behaves; you don't command it.
If the drive is deterministic and always returns zeros after TRIM, then
mdadm could pass the TRIM down and process it like a write of all zeros,
and recompute the parity. If it isn't deterministic, then I don't think
there's anything you can do to handle TRIM requests.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-02-21 18:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-02-07 20:07 SSD - TRIM command Roberto Spadim
2011-02-08 17:37 ` maurice
2011-02-08 18:31 ` Roberto Spadim
[not found] ` <AANLkTik5SumqyTN5LZVntna8nunvPe7v38TSFf9eCfcU@mail.gmail.com>
2011-02-08 20:50 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-08 21:18 ` maurice
2011-02-08 21:33 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-09 7:44 ` Stan Hoeppner
2011-02-09 9:05 ` Eric D. Mudama
2011-02-09 15:45 ` Chris Worley
2011-02-09 13:29 ` David Brown
2011-02-09 14:39 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-09 15:00 ` Scott E. Armitage
2011-02-09 15:52 ` Chris Worley
2011-02-09 19:15 ` Doug Dumitru
2011-02-09 19:22 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-09 16:19 ` Eric D. Mudama
2011-02-09 16:28 ` Scott E. Armitage
2011-02-09 17:17 ` Eric D. Mudama
2011-02-09 18:18 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-09 18:24 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2011-02-09 18:30 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-09 18:38 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2011-02-09 18:46 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-09 18:52 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-09 19:13 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2011-02-09 19:16 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-09 19:21 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2011-02-09 19:27 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-21 18:24 ` Phillip Susi [this message]
2011-02-21 18:30 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-09 15:49 ` David Brown
2011-02-21 18:20 ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-21 18:25 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-21 18:34 ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-21 18:48 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-21 18:51 ` Mathias Burén
2011-02-21 19:32 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-21 19:38 ` Mathias Burén
2011-02-21 19:39 ` Mathias Burén
2011-02-21 19:43 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-21 20:45 ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-21 19:39 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-21 19:51 ` Doug Dumitru
2011-02-21 19:57 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-21 20:47 ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-21 21:02 ` Mathias Burén
2011-02-21 22:52 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-21 23:41 ` Mathias Burén
2011-02-21 23:42 ` Mathias Burén
2011-02-21 23:52 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-22 0:25 ` Mathias Burén
2011-02-22 0:30 ` Brendan Conoboy
2011-02-22 0:36 ` Eric D. Mudama
2011-02-22 1:46 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-22 1:52 ` Mathias Burén
2011-02-22 1:55 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-22 2:01 ` Eric D. Mudama
2011-02-22 2:02 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2011-02-22 2:22 ` Guy Watkins
2011-02-22 2:27 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-22 3:45 ` NeilBrown
2011-02-22 4:37 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-22 2:38 ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-22 3:29 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-22 3:42 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-22 4:04 ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-22 4:30 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-22 14:45 ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-22 17:15 ` Roberto Spadim
2011-02-22 0:32 ` Eric D. Mudama
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