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From: Joe Landman <joe.landman@gmail.com>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Robert Woodworth <robertjwoodworth@gmail.com>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: SES Enclosure Management.
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:42:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F3AC741.6050204@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120215073130.792d4fae@notabene.brown>

On 02/14/2012 03:31 PM, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:30:37 -0700 Robert Woodworth
> <robertjwoodworth@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> Has anyone ever thought of integrating SES managed enclosures into the
>> kernel RAID system?  I briefly looked through the archives and have
>> not found anything on the topic.
>>
>> Some HW based RAID controllers do this flawlessly now, there is no
>> reason why the kernel RAID cannot also.  (LSI MegaRAID)
>>
>> 1) When a drive is part if a managed enclosure, the RAID system should
>> address it by location instead of by enumerated device node.  The SES
>> device in the enclosure can map the physical slot to a physical drive.
>>   The RAID admin (mdamd) should be able to add/fail/identify devices
>> based on slot.
>
> Does this just mean that the admin should using names in /dev/disk/by-path/
> rather than /dev/sdXX to address devices?  What can md or mdadm do to help?
>

Not sure on the SES (or SGPIO side), but one of the things we've been 
doing has been to create a file with disk placement "coordinates", so as 
to map serial number and device to physical location.

>>
>> 2) If the RAID system fails a drive, it should notify the SES
>> management and turn on the fail bit and the fail LED.
>
> "mdadm --monitor" will run a script on drive failure.  This could easily
> notify the SES management.

Yes, we are using this now for notifications and logging.

>
> So maybe all we need here is a script to plug in to mdadm... Would you like
> to write one?
>

Just need a "standard" SES (or SGPIO) mechanism to hook into, and we 
should be able to support this.  Right now we have to work through HBA 
scripts.

>>
>> 3) The RAID system should be able to turn on the 'identify' bit and
>> LEDs for an array or a single drive.
>
> Again, it sounds like you just need a script to ask mdadm which devices are
> included in a given array, and then do whatever magic is needed to turn on
> the light.
> It is fairly easy to extra the device list from the output of
>    mdadm --detail --brief --verbose /dev/md/whatever
>
> but it might be good to make it easier to extra from
>    mdadm --detail --export /dev/md/whatever
>
> Would you like to write such a script?
>
>>
>> I'm currently doing firmware on a managed enclosure.  Although my
>> vendor only supports LSI MegaRAID, there is no reason why my
>> enclosures cannot work in the same manner on a kernel RAID system.
>>
>>
>>
>> Request for comments...
>
> It sounds to me like you just need a few scripts to provide some
> enclosure-specific functionality.  I would be happy to include them in the
> mdadm distribution.
>
> Or maybe there is something that I didn't understand??
>
> Thanks,
> NeilBrown
>
>
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-14 20:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-14 17:30 SES Enclosure Management Robert Woodworth
2012-02-14 20:31 ` NeilBrown
2012-02-14 20:42   ` Joe Landman [this message]
2012-02-14 20:53     ` Robert Woodworth
2012-02-14 20:58       ` Joe Landman
2012-02-14 21:06         ` Jeff Johnson
2012-02-14 21:10           ` Robert Woodworth
2012-02-14 21:24             ` Jeff Johnson
2012-02-15 14:54               ` Joe Landman
2012-02-16 19:00       ` Benjamin ESTRABAUD
2012-02-16 19:12         ` Robert Woodworth
2012-02-21 18:55           ` Benjamin ESTRABAUD
2012-02-14 20:46   ` Robert Woodworth
2012-02-14 21:16     ` NeilBrown
2012-02-14 20:38 ` Joe Landman

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