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* raid10 regression: unrecoverable raids
@ 2012-03-19 10:59 Jes Sorensen
  2012-03-19 11:08 ` NeilBrown
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Jes Sorensen @ 2012-03-19 10:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Brown, Neil, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org

Hi,

commit 2bb77736ae5dca0a189829fbb7379d43364a9dac
Author: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
Date:   Wed Jul 27 11:00:36 2011 +1000

    md/raid10: Make use of new recovery_disabled handling

Caused a serious regression making it impossible to recover certain o2
layout raid10 arrays if they get enter a double degraded state.

If I create an array like this:

root@monkeybay ~]# mdadm --create /dev/md25 --raid-devices=4 --chunk=512
--level=raid10 --layout=o2  --assume-clean  /dev/sda4 missing missing
/dev/sdd4
mdadm: Defaulting to version 1.2 metadata
mdadm: array /dev/md25 started.

Then adding a spare like this:
[root@monkeybay ~]# mdadm -a /dev/md25 /dev/sdb4
mdadm: added /dev/sdb4

The spare ends up being added into slot 4 rather than into the empty
slot 1 and the array never rebuilds.

[root@monkeybay ~]# mdadm --detail /dev/md25
/dev/md25:
        Version : 1.2
  Creation Time : Mon Mar 19 12:52:52 2012
     Raid Level : raid10
     Array Size : 39059456 (37.25 GiB 40.00 GB)
  Used Dev Size : 19529728 (18.63 GiB 20.00 GB)
   Raid Devices : 4
  Total Devices : 3
    Persistence : Superblock is persistent

    Update Time : Mon Mar 19 12:52:56 2012
          State : clean, degraded
 Active Devices : 2
Working Devices : 3
 Failed Devices : 0
  Spare Devices : 1

         Layout : offset=2
     Chunk Size : 512K

           Name : monkeybay:25  (local to host monkeybay)
           UUID : afbf95cf:7015f3ff:a788bd4d:03b0fe32
         Events : 7

    Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
       0       8        4        0      active sync   /dev/sda4
       1       0        0        1      removed
       2       0        0        2      removed
       3       8       52        3      active sync   /dev/sdd4

       4       8       20        -      spare   /dev/sdb4
[root@monkeybay ~]#

This only seems to happen with o2 arrays, whereas n2 ones rebuild fine.
I can reproduce the problem if I fail drives 0 and 3 or 1 and 2. Failing
1 and 3 or 2 and 4 works. The problem shows both when creating the array
as above, or if creating it with all four drives and then failing them.

I have been staring at this for a while, but it isn't quite obvious to
me whether it is the recovery procedure that doesn't handle the double
gap properly or whether it is the re-add that doesn't take the o2 layout
into account properly.

This is a fairly serious bug as once a raid hits this state, it is no
longer possible to rebuild it even by adding more drives :(

Neil. any idea what went wrong with the new bad block handling code in
this case?

Cheers,
Jes

dmesg output:
md: bind<sda4>
md: bind<sdd4>
md/raid10:md25: active with 2 out of 4 devices
md25: detected capacity change from 0 to 39996882944
 md25:
md: bind<sdb4>
RAID10 conf printout:
 --- wd:2 rd:4
 disk 0, wo:0, o:1, dev:sda4
 disk 1, wo:1, o:1, dev:sdb4
 disk 3, wo:0, o:1, dev:sdd4
md: recovery of RAID array md25
md: minimum _guaranteed_  speed: 1000 KB/sec/disk.
md: using maximum available idle IO bandwidth (but not more than 200000
KB/sec) for recovery.
md: using 128k window, over a total of 19529728k.
md/raid10:md25: insufficient working devices for recovery.
md: md25: recovery done.
RAID10 conf printout:
 --- wd:2 rd:4
 disk 0, wo:0, o:1, dev:sda4
 disk 1, wo:1, o:1, dev:sdb4
 disk 3, wo:0, o:1, dev:sdd4
RAID10 conf printout:
 --- wd:2 rd:4
 disk 0, wo:0, o:1, dev:sda4
 disk 3, wo:0, o:1, dev:sdd4
RAID10 conf printout:
 --- wd:2 rd:4
 disk 0, wo:0, o:1, dev:sda4
 disk 2, wo:1, o:1, dev:sdb4
 disk 3, wo:0, o:1, dev:sdd4
md: recovery of RAID array md25
md: minimum _guaranteed_  speed: 1000 KB/sec/disk.
md: using maximum available idle IO bandwidth (but not more than 200000
KB/sec) for recovery.
md: using 128k window, over a total of 19529728k.
md/raid10:md25: insufficient working devices for recovery.
md: md25: recovery done.
RAID10 conf printout:
 --- wd:2 rd:4
 disk 0, wo:0, o:1, dev:sda4
 disk 2, wo:1, o:1, dev:sdb4
 disk 3, wo:0, o:1, dev:sdd4
RAID10 conf printout:
 --- wd:2 rd:4
 disk 0, wo:0, o:1, dev:sda4
 disk 3, wo:0, o:1, dev:sdd4
RAID10 conf printout:
 --- wd:2 rd:4
 disk 0, wo:0, o:1, dev:sda4
 disk 3, wo:0, o:1, dev:sdd4

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* Re: raid10 regression: unrecoverable raids
  2012-03-19 10:59 raid10 regression: unrecoverable raids Jes Sorensen
@ 2012-03-19 11:08 ` NeilBrown
  2012-03-19 11:15   ` Jes Sorensen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: NeilBrown @ 2012-03-19 11:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jes Sorensen; +Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org

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On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 11:59:55 +0100 Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> commit 2bb77736ae5dca0a189829fbb7379d43364a9dac
> Author: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
> Date:   Wed Jul 27 11:00:36 2011 +1000
> 
>     md/raid10: Make use of new recovery_disabled handling
> 
> Caused a serious regression making it impossible to recover certain o2
> layout raid10 arrays if they get enter a double degraded state.
> 
> If I create an array like this:
> 
> root@monkeybay ~]# mdadm --create /dev/md25 --raid-devices=4 --chunk=512
> --level=raid10 --layout=o2  --assume-clean  /dev/sda4 missing missing
> /dev/sdd4

o2 places data thus:

  A  B  C  D
  D  A  B  C

where columns are devices.

You've created an array with no place to store B.
mdadm or really shouldn't let you do that.  That is the bug.

> mdadm: Defaulting to version 1.2 metadata
> mdadm: array /dev/md25 started.
> 
> Then adding a spare like this:
> [root@monkeybay ~]# mdadm -a /dev/md25 /dev/sdb4
> mdadm: added /dev/sdb4
> 
> The spare ends up being added into slot 4 rather than into the empty
> slot 1 and the array never rebuilds.

How could it rebuild?  There is nowhere to get B from.

I'm surprised this every "worked"... but maybe I'm missing something.

NeilBrown



> 
> [root@monkeybay ~]# mdadm --detail /dev/md25
> /dev/md25:
>         Version : 1.2
>   Creation Time : Mon Mar 19 12:52:52 2012
>      Raid Level : raid10
>      Array Size : 39059456 (37.25 GiB 40.00 GB)
>   Used Dev Size : 19529728 (18.63 GiB 20.00 GB)
>    Raid Devices : 4
>   Total Devices : 3
>     Persistence : Superblock is persistent
> 
>     Update Time : Mon Mar 19 12:52:56 2012
>           State : clean, degraded
>  Active Devices : 2
> Working Devices : 3
>  Failed Devices : 0
>   Spare Devices : 1
> 
>          Layout : offset=2
>      Chunk Size : 512K
> 
>            Name : monkeybay:25  (local to host monkeybay)
>            UUID : afbf95cf:7015f3ff:a788bd4d:03b0fe32
>          Events : 7
> 
>     Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
>        0       8        4        0      active sync   /dev/sda4
>        1       0        0        1      removed
>        2       0        0        2      removed
>        3       8       52        3      active sync   /dev/sdd4
> 
>        4       8       20        -      spare   /dev/sdb4
> [root@monkeybay ~]#
> 
> This only seems to happen with o2 arrays, whereas n2 ones rebuild fine.
> I can reproduce the problem if I fail drives 0 and 3 or 1 and 2. Failing
> 1 and 3 or 2 and 4 works. The problem shows both when creating the array
> as above, or if creating it with all four drives and then failing them.
> 
> I have been staring at this for a while, but it isn't quite obvious to
> me whether it is the recovery procedure that doesn't handle the double
> gap properly or whether it is the re-add that doesn't take the o2 layout
> into account properly.
> 
> This is a fairly serious bug as once a raid hits this state, it is no
> longer possible to rebuild it even by adding more drives :(
> 
> Neil. any idea what went wrong with the new bad block handling code in
> this case?
> 
> Cheers,
> Jes
> 
> dmesg output:
> md: bind<sda4>
> md: bind<sdd4>
> md/raid10:md25: active with 2 out of 4 devices
> md25: detected capacity change from 0 to 39996882944
>  md25:
> md: bind<sdb4>
> RAID10 conf printout:
>  --- wd:2 rd:4
>  disk 0, wo:0, o:1, dev:sda4
>  disk 1, wo:1, o:1, dev:sdb4
>  disk 3, wo:0, o:1, dev:sdd4
> md: recovery of RAID array md25
> md: minimum _guaranteed_  speed: 1000 KB/sec/disk.
> md: using maximum available idle IO bandwidth (but not more than 200000
> KB/sec) for recovery.
> md: using 128k window, over a total of 19529728k.
> md/raid10:md25: insufficient working devices for recovery.
> md: md25: recovery done.
> RAID10 conf printout:
>  --- wd:2 rd:4
>  disk 0, wo:0, o:1, dev:sda4
>  disk 1, wo:1, o:1, dev:sdb4
>  disk 3, wo:0, o:1, dev:sdd4
> RAID10 conf printout:
>  --- wd:2 rd:4
>  disk 0, wo:0, o:1, dev:sda4
>  disk 3, wo:0, o:1, dev:sdd4
> RAID10 conf printout:
>  --- wd:2 rd:4
>  disk 0, wo:0, o:1, dev:sda4
>  disk 2, wo:1, o:1, dev:sdb4
>  disk 3, wo:0, o:1, dev:sdd4
> md: recovery of RAID array md25
> md: minimum _guaranteed_  speed: 1000 KB/sec/disk.
> md: using maximum available idle IO bandwidth (but not more than 200000
> KB/sec) for recovery.
> md: using 128k window, over a total of 19529728k.
> md/raid10:md25: insufficient working devices for recovery.
> md: md25: recovery done.
> RAID10 conf printout:
>  --- wd:2 rd:4
>  disk 0, wo:0, o:1, dev:sda4
>  disk 2, wo:1, o:1, dev:sdb4
>  disk 3, wo:0, o:1, dev:sdd4
> RAID10 conf printout:
>  --- wd:2 rd:4
>  disk 0, wo:0, o:1, dev:sda4
>  disk 3, wo:0, o:1, dev:sdd4
> RAID10 conf printout:
>  --- wd:2 rd:4
>  disk 0, wo:0, o:1, dev:sda4
>  disk 3, wo:0, o:1, dev:sdd4


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* Re: raid10 regression: unrecoverable raids
  2012-03-19 11:08 ` NeilBrown
@ 2012-03-19 11:15   ` Jes Sorensen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Jes Sorensen @ 2012-03-19 11:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: NeilBrown; +Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org

On 03/19/12 12:08, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 11:59:55 +0100 Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> commit 2bb77736ae5dca0a189829fbb7379d43364a9dac
>> Author: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
>> Date:   Wed Jul 27 11:00:36 2011 +1000
>>
>>     md/raid10: Make use of new recovery_disabled handling
>>
>> Caused a serious regression making it impossible to recover certain o2
>> layout raid10 arrays if they get enter a double degraded state.
>>
>> If I create an array like this:
>>
>> root@monkeybay ~]# mdadm --create /dev/md25 --raid-devices=4 --chunk=512
>> --level=raid10 --layout=o2  --assume-clean  /dev/sda4 missing missing
>> /dev/sdd4
> 
> o2 places data thus:
> 
>   A  B  C  D
>   D  A  B  C
> 
> where columns are devices.
> 
> You've created an array with no place to store B.
> mdadm or really shouldn't let you do that.  That is the bug.

Here I was thinking it would rely on alien storage that would get
swapped in magically when something was missing ;)

Actually I thought raid10 here as operating more as two raid1's
concatenated.

>> mdadm: Defaulting to version 1.2 metadata
>> mdadm: array /dev/md25 started.
>>
>> Then adding a spare like this:
>> [root@monkeybay ~]# mdadm -a /dev/md25 /dev/sdb4
>> mdadm: added /dev/sdb4
>>
>> The spare ends up being added into slot 4 rather than into the empty
>> slot 1 and the array never rebuilds.
> 
> How could it rebuild?  There is nowhere to get B from.
> 
> I'm surprised this every "worked"... but maybe I'm missing something.

Well it seems to be more -ENOCLUE from my side here :) Should we do
something in mdadm to prevent creating an array this way?

Cheers,
Jes

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