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From: David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
To: stan@hardwarefreak.com
Cc: vincent Ferrer <vincentchicago1@gmail.com>, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: raid5 to utilize upto 8 cores
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 10:59:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <502F5959.3000507@hesbynett.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <502F204D.5020506@hardwarefreak.com>

On 18/08/12 06:55, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> On 8/17/2012 6:47 AM, David Brown wrote:
>> On 17/08/2012 12:52, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>
>> It sounds like I /have/ misunderstood things - at least regarding the
>> inode64 allocator (which will surely be the best choice for a large
>> array).  I had though that while directories "/a/" and "/b/" get
>> different allocation groups, directories "/a/1/" and "/a/2/" would go in
>> the same AG as "/a/".  What you are saying is that this is not correct -
>> each of these four directories would go in a separate AG.  File "/a/1/x"
>> would go in the same AG as "/a/1/", of course.  Assuming this is the
>> case, XFS over linear concat sounds more appealing for a much wider set
>> of applications than I had previously thought.
>
> I may bear some blame for this.  Long ago I thought the inode64
> allocator worked as you describe.  I may have spread that
> misinformation.  If so, my apologies to all.
>
> Indeed the inode64 allocator creates new directories evenly across all
> AGs in a round robin fashion.

Thanks for clearing this up.  I understand much better now why you are 
such a fan of XFS over concat - spreading all directories around like 
this will give better performance for a much wider set of workloads.

> Thus it will work better with most
> workloads on storage with some level of concatenation than with straight
> striped RAID on rust.  This is due to excessive seeks across all the
> AGs, which line up from outer to inner tracks when striping.  With SSD
> seek starvation is irrelevant, so concat and striping are pretty much equal.
>
>>> The only real benefit of striped RAID over concat, for the majority of
>>> workloads, is $/GB.
>
> To be more clear, I was obviously referring to striped parity RAID here,
> not RAID10, which has the same cost as concat+mirror.
>


  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-18  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-16  2:56 raid5 to utilize upto 8 cores vincent Ferrer
2012-08-16  5:58 ` Stan Hoeppner
2012-08-16  7:03   ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2012-08-16  7:52   ` David Brown
2012-08-16 15:47     ` Flynn
2012-08-17  7:15     ` Stan Hoeppner
2012-08-17  7:29       ` David Brown
2012-08-17 10:52         ` Stan Hoeppner
2012-08-17 11:47           ` David Brown
2012-08-18  4:55             ` Stan Hoeppner
2012-08-18  8:59               ` David Brown [this message]
     [not found]   ` <CAEyJA_ungvS_o6dpKL+eghpavRwtY9eaDNCRJF0eUULoC0P6BA@mail.gmail.com>
2012-08-16  8:55     ` Stan Hoeppner
2012-08-16 22:11   ` vincent Ferrer
2012-08-17  7:52     ` David Brown
2012-08-17  8:29     ` Stan Hoeppner
     [not found] ` <CAD9gYJLwuai2kGw1D1wQoK8cOvMOiCCcN3hAY=k_jj0=4og3Vg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <CAEyJA_tGFtN2HMYa=vDV7m9N8thA-6MJ5TFo20X1yEpG3HQWYw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <CAD9gYJK09kRMb_v25uwmG7eRfFQLQyEd4SMXWBSPwYkpP56jcw@mail.gmail.com>
2012-08-16 21:51       ` vincent Ferrer
2012-08-16 22:29         ` Roberto Spadim

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