From: Stan Hoeppner <stan@hardwarefreak.com>
To: Andrea Mazzoleni <amadvance@gmail.com>,
John Williams <jwilliams4200@gmail.com>
Cc: David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Linux RAID Mailing List <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>,
Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
David Smith <creamyfish@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Triple parity and beyond
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 00:15:01 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <528DA4E5.5040201@hardwarefreak.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGKKSfUemNRq-X6meNKiyQBERzXRmLvOXkcwn8TGFf_Tq=_Atw@mail.gmail.com>
On 11/20/2013 12:44 PM, Andrea Mazzoleni wrote:
> Yes. There are still AMD CPUs sold without SSSE3. Most notably Athlon.
> Instead, Intel is providing SSSE3 from the Core 2 Duo.
I hate branding discontinuity, due to the resulting confusion...
Athlon, Athlon64, Athlon64 X2, Athlon X2 (K10), Athlon II X2, Athlon X2
(Piledriver). Anyone confused?
The Trinity and Richland core "Athlon X2" and "Athlon X4" branded
processors certainly do support SSSE3, as well as SSE4, AVX, etc. These
are the dual/quad core APUs whose graphics cores don't pass QC and are
surgically disabled. AMD decided to brand them as "Athlon" processors.
Available since ~2011. For example:
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bulldozer/AMD-Athlon%20X2%20370K%20-%20AD370KOKA23HL%20-%20AD370KOKHLBOX.html
The "Athlon II X2/X3/X4" processors have been out of production for a
couple of years now, but a scant few might still be found for sale in
the channel. The X2 is based on the clean sheet Regor dual core 45nm
design. The X3 and X4 are Phenom II rejects with various numbers of
defective cores and defective L3 caches. None support SSSE3.
To say "there are still AMD CPUs sold without SSSE3... Most notably
Athlon" may be technically true if some Athlon II stragglers exist in
the channel. But it isn't really a fair statement of today's reality.
AMD hasn't manufactured a CPU without SSSE3 for a couple of years now.
And few, if any, Athlon II X2/3/4 chips lacking SSSE3 are for sale.
Though there are certainly many such chips still in deployed desktop
machines.
> A detailed list is available at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSSE3
Never trust Wikipedia articles to be complete and up to date. However,
it does mention Athlon X2 and X4 as planned future product in the
Piledriver lineup. Obviously this should be updated to past tense.
--
Stan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-21 6:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-18 22:08 Triple parity and beyond Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-18 22:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-18 22:35 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-18 23:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-19 10:16 ` David Brown
2013-11-19 17:36 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-19 22:51 ` Drew
2013-11-20 0:54 ` Chris Murphy
2013-11-20 1:23 ` John Williams
2013-11-20 10:35 ` David Brown
2013-11-20 10:31 ` David Brown
2013-11-20 18:09 ` John Williams
2013-11-20 18:44 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-21 6:15 ` Stan Hoeppner [this message]
2013-11-21 8:32 ` David Brown
2013-11-20 18:34 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-20 18:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-20 18:56 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-20 18:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-20 21:21 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-20 19:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-20 21:04 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-20 21:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-21 8:36 ` David Brown
2013-11-19 17:28 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-19 20:29 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-20 16:16 ` James Plank
2013-11-20 19:05 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-20 19:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-20 20:30 ` James Plank
2013-11-20 21:23 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-27 2:50 ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-11-20 21:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-21 1:28 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-21 2:46 ` John Williams
2013-11-21 6:52 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-21 7:05 ` John Williams
2013-11-21 22:57 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-21 23:38 ` John Williams
2013-11-22 9:35 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-22 11:24 ` joystick
2013-11-22 15:01 ` John Williams
2013-11-22 22:28 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-22 23:07 ` NeilBrown
2013-11-23 3:46 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-23 5:04 ` NeilBrown
2013-11-23 5:34 ` John Williams
2013-11-23 7:12 ` NeilBrown
2013-11-24 4:03 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-24 5:14 ` John Williams
2013-11-24 21:13 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-24 23:28 ` Rudy Zijlstra
2013-11-24 23:53 ` Alex Elsayed
2013-11-25 2:04 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-25 4:48 ` Alex Elsayed
2013-11-25 9:15 ` David Brown
2013-11-24 5:19 ` Russell Coker
2013-11-24 21:44 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-24 22:31 ` Mark Knecht
2013-11-25 2:14 ` Russell Coker
2013-11-25 9:20 ` David Brown
2013-11-21 8:08 ` joystick
2013-11-22 0:30 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-22 0:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-22 0:45 ` David Brown
2013-11-21 9:07 ` David Brown
2013-11-21 9:54 ` Adam Goryachev
2013-11-21 10:32 ` David Brown
2013-11-22 8:12 ` Russell Coker
2013-11-25 18:23 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2013-11-22 8:13 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-22 13:15 ` David Brown
2013-11-22 16:07 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-22 22:59 ` NeilBrown
2013-11-23 17:39 ` David Brown
2013-11-22 16:50 ` Mark Knecht
2013-11-22 19:51 ` Duncan
2013-11-22 8:38 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-22 13:24 ` David Brown
2013-11-28 7:16 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-28 7:36 ` Russell Coker
2013-11-28 9:56 ` David Brown
2013-11-30 7:32 ` Alex Elsayed
2013-12-01 15:37 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-22 14:19 ` David Taylor
2013-11-21 19:56 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2013-11-19 18:12 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2013-11-20 10:44 ` David Brown
2013-11-20 21:59 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2013-11-21 10:13 ` David Brown
2013-11-21 17:37 ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2013-11-21 20:05 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2013-11-21 20:31 ` David Brown
2013-11-21 20:52 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2013-11-22 0:32 ` David Brown
2013-11-22 20:32 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2013-11-26 18:10 ` joystick
2013-11-20 21:38 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-20 22:29 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2013-11-23 7:55 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-23 22:10 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2013-11-24 9:39 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-12-01 17:53 Richard Scobie
2013-12-02 4:30 ` Stan Hoeppner
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