From: Francis Moreau <francis.moro@gmail.com>
To: David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>,
Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>
Cc: linux-raid <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Soft RAID and EFI systems
Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 10:45:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52F0B6C6.50905@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52F0B453.3070108@hesbynett.no>
On 02/04/2014 10:35 AM, David Brown wrote:
[...]
>>
>> It seems odd to have chosen FAT32 in the first place then.
>
> FAT32 is the worst possible choice of a filesystem, except for three
> aspects - it is quite simple and can be implemented in a small amount of
> code (such as in EFI or a bootloader), it is usable on small disks or
> partitions, and it is supported by brain-dead OS's that don't understand
> better alternatives (NTFS has journalling, but is a monster to implement
> in something the size of EFI).
>
> It's a crap filesystem, but it is the "industry standard" for small
> disks and small systems.
If readonly support is only needed, there're some alternative to FAT32.
But I agree FAT32 is well known by the industry standard.
>
>>
>>>
>>> The most important way to protect your FAT32 system is simply to avoid
>>> writing to it except when absolutely necessary. If it is mounted
>>> read-only, and only updated when changing grub or updating the kernel,
>>> then just make sure you don't power-cycle your machine at that time.
>>
>> Well, the problem is that you never know when power failures happen at
>> least for me with a small server without any power backup.
>
> The answer here is staring you in the face... get an UPS. A small one
> is not expensive - you only need it to run the server for a couple of
> minutes. Even though journalled filesystems can keep their /metadata/
> consistency after a power failure, they don't normally guarantee /data/
> consistency, and certainly cannot guarantee /application level/
> consistency. You get that from doing a proper shutdown. And remember
> also that after an unclean shutdown, restarts involve long consistency
> checks at the raid level and at the filesystem level - an UPS will let
> you avoid that.
I understand your point.
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-02-04 9:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-31 17:02 Soft RAID and EFI systems Francis Moreau
2014-02-01 22:04 ` Martin Wilck
2014-02-02 21:39 ` Francis Moreau
2014-02-02 21:56 ` Martin Wilck
2014-02-02 20:39 ` Chris Murphy
2014-02-02 21:34 ` Francis Moreau
2014-02-02 22:30 ` Chris Murphy
2014-02-02 22:57 ` Phil Turmel
2014-02-03 7:19 ` Martin Wilck
2014-02-04 8:41 ` Francis Moreau
2014-02-04 8:48 ` David Brown
2014-02-04 8:53 ` Francis Moreau
2014-02-04 12:27 ` Phil Turmel
2014-02-04 15:13 ` Chris Murphy
2014-02-04 15:29 ` Chris Murphy
2014-02-07 7:42 ` Francis Moreau
2014-02-04 8:32 ` Francis Moreau
2014-02-04 8:57 ` David Brown
2014-02-04 9:06 ` Francis Moreau
2014-02-04 9:35 ` David Brown
2014-02-04 9:45 ` Francis Moreau [this message]
2014-02-04 15:27 ` Chris Murphy
2014-02-04 15:40 ` Chris Murphy
2014-02-04 14:50 ` Chris Murphy
2014-02-07 8:00 ` Francis Moreau
2014-02-03 9:56 ` David Brown
2014-02-04 8:22 ` Francis Moreau
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